Brexit, for once some facts.

[oyster]

In the Corner stands Brexit voter, disappointed by the leave campaign
And he carries the reminders
Of every lie and broken promise ,that cut him down, and hurt him
Till he cried out
in his anger and his shame
I am leaving! I am leaving!
But the Brexiter remains
Lie le lie, , etc.
Such are promises, all lies and jest
till a man believes lord Farage
and disregards the rest
Lie le lie

I did think the chorus highly apposite. :

 

[oldgroaner]

I did think the chorus highly apposite. :

Me too!

 

[Fingers]

My Goodness ! did you say £6 Billions? do you realise what wonderful news this is for fishermen?
Lets see now
in 2017 Around 11,700 fishermen were active in the UK.
£6 billion (lump sum say) works out at £512.82 each

Back in the days of deep sea trawling a decent trip away could, after expenses, net a good Skipper about £600 for three weeks work, after expenses. Bearing in mind that the average weekly wage in 1961 was around £16
And Deck hands were not far behind that, they were called "Three day millionaires" as that's the time it took them to blow the lot

He don’t know much about history.

He don’t know much about arithmacy.

What he does know is to cut and paste and he’s expert on hyperbolee.

What a worried man he must be.

 

[50Hertz]

My Goodness ! did you say £6 Billions? do you realise what wonderful news this is for fishermen?
Lets see now
in 2017 Around 11,700 fishermen were active in the UK.
£6 billion (lump sum say) works out at £512.82 each

Back in the days of deep sea trawling a decent trip away could, after expenses, net a good Skipper about £600 for three weeks work, after expenses. Bearing in mind that the average weekly wage in 1961 was around £16
And Deck hands were not far behind that, they were called "Three day millionaires" as that's the time it took them to blow the lot

£6. Billion shared amongst 11700 people is just over half a million pounds each.

I hope you didn’t use the same calculator to design your toilets! One good fart could over stress the porcelain, sending shrapnel flying all over the bathroom.

 

[Fingers]

£6. Billion shared amongst 11700 people is just over half a million pounds each.

I hope you didn’t use the same calculator to design your toilets! One good fart could over stress the porcelain, sending shrapnel flying all over the bathroom.

Well don't forget he thought a million people a day were reading his comments....he really thought that.

Maths isn't his strong point.

I'm not sure what is bar misery, lies and nonsense.

 

[oldgroaner]

He don’t know much about history.

He don’t know much about arithmacy.

What he does know is to cut and paste and he’s expert on hyperbolee.

What a worried man he must be.

I made a mistake and left it to see the reaction
50 Hertz was fair but funny
You behaved in your usual uncouth insulting manner.
Easy to get you to show your true nature isn't it?

 

[oldgroaner]

Well don't forget he thought a million people a day were reading his comments....he really thought that.

Maths isn't his strong point.

I'm not sure what is bar misery, lies and nonsense.

21 today, 21 today... speaking of nonsense , why do you keep repeating your lie about the Million people who viewed the page?
This is what you suggested as well as 300 who viewed the page 50 times a day

 

[oldgroaner]

£6. Billion shared amongst 11700 people is just over half a million pounds each.

I hope you didn’t use the same calculator to design your toilets! One good fart could over stress the porcelain, sending shrapnel flying all over the bathroom.

Fair cop my friend, I did put in too few zeros! my mistake.
I left it to pull finger's chain.... and it worked... shows he was paying attention for once
A normal person would have said "are you sure about that, shouldn't that be £528,820"?

look at the difference between your response, which was amusing, good fun all round.
Woosh simply corrected it.
Daveboy saw it and laughed.

But fingers had to cavort around, act the goat, be insulting and score brownie points...

He even brought up yet again his lie about the Million people He suggested read the forum.
What a strange and bitter individual.

I just hope he didn't loose his grip and fall on his head in the belfry again reading it

 

[oldgroaner]

if it were only for fishermen, they won't be quite millionaires, £6 billions / 12000 = half a million each.
The £6 billions will go toward 12,000 fishermen and about 300,000 farms.

I boobed there didn't I woosh, never mind it got some edifying reactions.
And showed people in their true colours too

 

[oldgroaner]

In the Telegraph
Latest bid in the "Democratic" auction of the UK
"
Boris Johnson could shrink Cabinet by half and merge departments to save Government billions of pounds

Any advance anyone?
Do I hear a bid of "Free Beer tomorrow?"

 

[daveboy]

In the Telegraph
Latest bid in the "Democratic" auction of the UK
"
Boris Johnson could shrink Cabinet by half and merge departments to save Government billions of pounds

Any advance anyone?
Do I hear a bid of "Free Beer tomorrow?"

Only works out at £512 each....…. sorry couldn't help myself.

 

[oldgroaner]

Only works out at £512 each....….

Good shot! you got me there, well done daveboy!
I have ordered a new calculator as my old Otis king has seized up

It cost me just under a fiver in 1971 you can see it open and the case it goes into whe n closed, this picture is off Ebay as I couldn't find mine this morning.
If anyone is interested there is more detail here
Otis King Type L mechanical calculator

 

[oyster]

In the Telegraph
Latest bid in the "Democratic" auction of the UK
"
Boris Johnson could shrink Cabinet by half and merge departments to save Government billions of pounds

Any advance anyone?
Do I hear a bid of "Free Beer tomorrow?"

Absolutely he could.
First, set up a standard sized cabinet.
Second, cancel brexit - saving billions.
Third, remove himself from the cabinet thus reducing the size of the cabinet by at least half. (As assessed by incompetence, ego, and numerous other measures.)

 

[oldgroaner]

Moggy rides again in the Telegraph
"
The EU is corroding our Union, Boris and Brexit will revitalise it and damage the cause of Scottish nationalism

Jacob Rees-Mogg
How that for lie of the day?
Brexit is the problem

 

[oldgroaner]

Absolutely he could.
First, set up a standard sized cabinet.
Second, cancel brexit - saving billions.
Third, remove himself from the cabinet thus reducing the size of the cabinet by at least half. (As assessed by incompetence, ego, and numerous other measures.)

I rather like this plan!

 

[50Hertz]

Good shot! you got me there, well done daveboy!
I have ordered a new calculator as my old Otis king has seized up

It cost me just under a fiver in 1971 you can see it open and the case it goes into whe n closed, this picture is off Ebay as I couldn't find mine this morning.
If anyone is interested there is more detail here
Otis King Type L mechanical calculator

I remember seeing mechanical calculators when I first started work. They were no longer in use, electronic versions had taken over, but I think the company had paid so much for these complex mechanical machines, they couldn’t bring themselves to throw them away. They were like large typewriters, with dozens of numbered barrels and indecipherable keys. I never tried to understand how they worked because that seemed more complicated than solving the maths manually, plus I’d been brought up on electronic calculators.

 

[Woosh]

Moggy rides again in the Telegraph
"
The EU is corroding our Union, Boris and Brexit will revitalise it and damage the cause of Scottish nationalism

Jacob Rees-Mogg
How that for lie of the day?
Brexit is the problem

they want to goad remainers. TM's plan was stopped by the ERG.
Without the ERG, division inside the Labour party is enough to stop remainers.

 

[oldgroaner]

I remember seeing mechanical calculators when I first started work. They were no longer in use, electronic versions had taken over, but I think the company had paid so much for these complex mechanical machines, they couldn’t bring themselves to throw them away. They were like large typewriters, with dozens of numbered barrels and indecipherable keys. I never tried to understand how they worked because that seemed more complicated than solving the maths manually, plus I’d been brought up on electronic calculators.

Sounds like a comptometer! is this the one you mean?
I used one of these in 1960 as the Invoices were paid by cheques back then and hundreds came in each morning

We also had one with exposed barrels at the top from the same maker


For working out the invoices we used Ready Reckoner books like this

never crashed and no batteries to go flat

 

[Woosh]

William Hague:

Boris has demonstrated his strong convictions by saying “do or die” and refusing to rule out the proroguing of parliament. But in doing so, however much I wish him well if he is elected, he has lost my vote, because “do and then die” could very easily be the outcome.

However, between BJ's no deal brexit intention to a no brexit, you need an extension to A50 to organise a new referendum.
That's easier said than done.
The law allows the sitting government 14 days to try to obtain confidence of parliament after losing a confidence vote.
After that, the opposition must put up another PM to ask the EU for an extension. Who is it going to be? the only suitable candidate is JH I am afraid. All of that needs to happen before 31st October. I am pleased that JH wants to declare that he goes for no deal at the end of September to allow parliament time.
So if you don't want brexit, you have to hope that JH wins the PMship.

 

[Danidl]

I remember seeing mechanical calculators when I first started work. They were no longer in use, electronic versions had taken over, but I think the company had paid so much for these complex mechanical machines, they couldn’t bring themselves to throw them away. They were like large typewriters, with dozens of numbered barrels and indecipherable keys. I never tried to understand how they worked because that seemed more complicated than solving the maths manually, plus I’d been brought up on electronic calculators.

Ha!. Showing your youth again?. The Physics labs in my college had a few of these mechanical beasties ,by Olivetti,if memory serves .We were required to use them for the statistics of a Brownian walk... They would do addition, squaring,and summing the squares,