Brexit, for once some facts.

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We could be in trouble right away at step one.
is Corbyn going to trigger a vote of No confidence against the government or himself? :oops:
any triggering, he'll fall off his fence.
 

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Guys. It’s time.

Use the password please.


Only the folks with the correct password please.

Now is the time to hit the bunkers.

No joke.
That was a Party Political Broadcast on behalf of the Conservative party.
And highly commended
 
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jonathan.agnew

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who would you prefer to honour the result of the vote, or don't you think it should be??
Well, no offence, but since it was an uninformed bigoted decision it seems only fair that an uninformed bigot (ie boris) implements it. Back in the real world everyone knows it isnt possible to implement it (as boris supporters will find out, soon).
 
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Well, no offence, but since it was an uninformed bigoted decision it seems only fair that an uninformed bigot (ie boris) implements it. Back in the real world everyone knows it isnt possible to implement it (as boris supporters will find out, soon).
why was it uninformed and bigoted. We had everything thrown at us.And despite all the scare stories ir was still voted for. You call it bigoted because it didn't go the way you wanted. I would suggest it's you who is the bigot, against the people who don't agree with you. Typical liberal. I'm a good person, just as long as you agree with me.
 

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why was it uninformed and bigoted. We had everything thrown at us.And despite all the scare stories ir was still voted for. You call it bigoted because it didn't go the way you wanted. I would suggest it's you who is the bigot, against the people who don't agree with you. Typical liberal. I'm a good person, just as long as you agree with me.
No, politics aside, decisions have consequences. I dont want to destroy fellow Britons livelihoods, consumer and human rights, opportunities. If you include politics, especially not for the xenophobic values riese mogg or farage personify. That's not liberal values, its caring about the uk and those who live here.
Politically, I want to see boris as pm. Trying to honour the decision. The process will disintegrate the tories and show up the leave vote for what it really was
 
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What a fate for any country! where did we go wrong to end up with this Weapons Grade Blithering idiot in line for Prime Minister?

Imagine him meeting Putin!
No, better not go there...

Hang on I have a brilliant idea ...
Lets contract a Ventrilquist to put his arm up the back entrance and work this dummy.

Sadly the best choice Rod Hull (Emu) killed himself falling off his roof fixing the TV ariel, and my second choice Ray Alan who created Lord Charles ( the original Rees Mogg was cloned from) has passed away too.

Is there a Ventriloquist is the house of commons, attracted there perhaps by the countries leading selection of dummies?
Shari Lewis has also gone. I'm quite sure Lamb Chop had more appeal than any current politician.
 

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No, politics aside, decisions have consequences. I dont want to destroy fellow Britons livelihoods, consumer and human rights, opportunities. If you include politics, especially not for the xenophobic values riese mogg or farage personify. That's not liberal values, its caring about the uk and those who live here.
Politically, I want to see boris as pm. Trying to honour the decision. The process will disintegrate the tories and show up the leave vote for what it really was
and who do you want to replace them, because if the traitors in their party force an election they will not be re elected, so we have the possibility of Labour under Corbyn and McDonnell. Or a coalition of them and the SNP. Maybe the Brexit Party will be in the mix. I am less worried about Brexit than a government run by Corbyn
 

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and who do you want to replace them, because if the traitors in their party force an election they will not be re elected, so we have the possibility of Labour under Corbyn and McDonnell. Or a coalition of them and the SNP. Maybe the Brexit Party will be in the mix. I am less worried about Brexit than a government run by Corbyn
Corbyn is to me a lesser evil, at least we will at worst be in a customs union, with all the consumer and employee protection that goes with it. If it's a coalition with the lib dems, greens, SNP that's ok for me too. What specifically about a corbyn government seem so damaging to you?
 
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who would you prefer to honour the result of the vote, or don't you think it should be??
I would prefer Stewart or Hunt. They will deliver brexit may be a bit later than this year, but they'll get there.
BJ will wing it all the way, until either another leadership challenge or an election and he still won't deliver brexit.
Better still, cancel A50, go back to the EU to negotiate another deal like Cameron did.
If that does not work out, a new referendum with WTO, soft brexit or remain. This time, we'll be well prepared.
 

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why was it uninformed and bigoted. We had everything thrown at us.And despite all the scare stories ir was still voted for. You call it bigoted because it didn't go the way you wanted. I would suggest it's you who is the bigot, against the people who don't agree with you. Typical liberal. I'm a good person, just as long as you agree with me.
No you didn't have "everything" thrown at you, that is a fiction deliberately fostered before and after the event, in fact very few of the things pointed out against Brexit only failed to come to pass because Brexit never happened, did it? and there were far more scare stories used by the leave campaign as we have proved on here time after time, and these were delivered directly to the most likely to be influenced voters using stolen data paid for with illegal funds.
Why are you still keen on this so obvious a plot to make money out of you at your expense?
 
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gray198

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I would prefer Stewart or Hunt. They will deliver brexit may be a bit later than this year, but they'll get there.
BJ will wing it all the way, until either another leadership challenge or an election and he still won't deliver brexit.
Better still, cancel A50, go back to the EU to negotiate another deal like Cameron did.
If that does not work out, a new referendum with WTO, soft brexit or remain. This time, we'll be well prepared.
I saw that in Westminster Hunt is regarded as a TIT. Theresa in trousers and I think Stewart is pretty much in the same mould. Why would we want someone who is the same as the previous one?
 

oldgroaner

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I saw that in Westminster Hunt is regarded as a TIT. Theresa in trousers and I think Stewart is pretty much in the same mould. Why would we want someone who is the same as the previous one?
Is it logical to go for someone who is a parody of a man, with no principles, a liar and a cheat that is given to ruining our reputation abroad with his insulting behaviour.
Is going from bad to worse a better idea?
The Conservative appear to be consumed by a Death Wish.
Not before time...
 
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and who do you want to replace them, because if the traitors in their party force an election they will not be re elected, so we have the possibility of Labour under Corbyn and McDonnell. Or a coalition of them and the SNP. Maybe the Brexit Party will be in the mix. I am less worried about Brexit than a government run by Corbyn
Can we not detect a bit of circular reasoning going on here.
1. 3 years ago the public gave solicited advice to parliament that they wanted a looser relationship with the EU. The nature of which was NOT specified.
2. Parliament responded in lemming fashion and then voted overwhelmingly to get out of the EU..no analysis being done That in fairness included plenty of Labor support...So it was Parliament which voted for Brexit not the people!.They then without any analysis, other than popularity polls stuck promises about getting out in Election literature.
3. Some people in Parliament realise that the Experts might have known something,and it was not a slam dunk. But because they had given themselves a promise, would and will not reconsider.
4. Hence the backsliding,the resignations, the reality that the only achievable Brexit is so radioactive it will contaiminate those responsible for a generation. It is only those forced to actually deal with real Brexit, who realise that, then they resign or have resignation thrust in them..... And another volunteer, fed on soundbites enters the fray
5. Meanwhile this pass the parcel game continues ,
6 Is it noblest in the mind to hide, perchance,survive, or tell the truth and let the devil incarnate take over?. There are 650 people pondering this.. the only difference us that they fear different devils.
 

oldgroaner

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his policies and the fact that he hates the country and wants to be friends with all our enemies, and that he is economically illiterate. You hate Boris but are quite happy for him to be in power. Strange
Fascinating "he hates the country and wants to be friends with all our enemies, "
Second hand propaganda from bigots for bigots
and who was remarking about disliking being called a bigot?
Where has Corbyn ever said he hates this country? what he has said he wants to make it a fairer place.
Is that your problem with him?
 

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