Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Funny you should say that, but ,i do post on a few other sites,and on one I have a certified 154k views over the the last year. While I do also post on other technical topics, a significant fraction is on Brexit related topics..using arguments I have rehearsed here.
With the notable exception of Woosh who is intelligent and articulate,and can at least provide a rational argument making points if favour of Brexit, I do hope you don't encounter the equivalent of our "Three Stooges tribute act" on other forums where Brexit is discussed.

Having someone to debate with that can provide a real rational opposing viewpoint must be very refreshing.

And by the way that mention of number of views will only set fingers off again, we don't want him to have a nightmare , lose his grip on his perch and repeat the performance of the other morning where he landed on his head again do we?
 
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I agree, but as far as the great unwashed British public is concerned, it wouldn’t make for good telly. It needs to be more Love Island/ Kyle to capture their imagination. This is the problem we face.
sounds to me that you have got a superiority complex. Everyone who does not agree with you has no intelligence, or moral compass. Where would we be without you
 

oldgroaner

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I didn’t think the imam’s questions were anything to get excited about, but the BBC could have found someone with a better pedigree to ask them.

I got the impression that all of the people asking questions were anti Tory, but if the idea of the TV show was to test the candidates, then that doesn’t matter.

What I disliked was how easily Johnson was let off the hook by the BBC. Rory Stewart asked Boris Johnson a really good question about what type of Brexit intended to get through Parliament and how he planned to achieve getting it through. That, is the key to the Brexit lock and of course Johnson completely failed to address any aspect of the Stewart’s question, he waffled on about something completely different. Emily Clematis totally failed to pick him up and on that. She could have really held him to account and exposed him for the unthinking, poorly prepared & scheming clown that he is. I found it very frustrating.

We are going to end up with Johnson as PM who will continue to BS the public, which will ultimately lead to anger and disappointment on both sides of the Brexit debate. That will then result in some form of a Corbyn lead Labour government / coalition, which for me will be a bigger disaster than Brexit.
It's hard enough to struggle with the notion that any of the Westminster Flying Circus could form a coalition to even order a round at the commons bar , never mind a government without adding the concept of Corbyn leading anything in as well.

I still think we are suffering the after effects of an attack by Putin using a stealthy WMS weapon (Weapon of Mass Stupidity)
This could easily be verfified by checking all who support either the BXP or indeed any surviving pro Brexit voter with a modified Guiger counter.
 
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oldgroaner

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sounds to me that you have got a superiority complex. Everyone who does not agree with you has no intelligence, or moral compass. Where would we be without you
The problem is most of what he says is true, allowing for the fact that he has a Conservative scorn for the lower classes and sneers at them as a matter of form.
 
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Hello Fingers .. are you still in there... there seems to be a problem with your messages not making even as much sense as usual
Wiggle wiggle wiggle , scratch, scratch ,scratch... I had Capricorns in my French house like that . A strong dose of Xenophane , eventually kills them from the timber.
 
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OxygenJames

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We are going to end up with Johnson as PM who will continue to BS the public, which will ultimately lead to anger and disappointment on both sides of the Brexit debate. That will then result in some form of a Corbyn lead Labour government / coalition, which for me will be a bigger disaster than Brexit.
God you never give up do you? You're just SO in love with your own opinions it beggars belief. Such grandiosity. Who was it said a superiority complex? Somebody did. Bang on.
 
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OxygenJames

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Funny you should say that, but ,i do post on a few other sites,and on one I have a certified 154k views over the the last year. While I do also post on other technical topics, a significant fraction is on Brexit related topics..using arguments I have rehearsed here.
Glad we are of some use.
 

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What’s a Capricorn?
In the adult state they are flying beetle like, in the larvae stage, quite a large wood eating soft bodied caterpillar ..of a diameter close to a childs finger. Whereas wood worm are silent ,one can hear these munching. Don't worry, by perseverance and the use of the appropriate treatment , I have irradicated them.. There is a lesson there.
 

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In the adult state they are flying beetle like, in the larvae stage, quite a large wood eating soft bodied caterpillar ..of a diameter close to a childs finger. Whereas wood worm are silent ,one can hear these munching. Don't worry, by perseverance and the use of the appropriate treatment , I have irradicated them.. There is a lesson there.
Petrol works as good as any other treatments (and not to burn place down)
We had a couple of properties in France full of the things( brought in with too old fire wood)... Saw a few as thick as my fingers.... Wicheti grub size...
And the petrol smell disappeared quicker than expensive chemicals, yet still protects the old wood...
Theres always a cheaper way to do things.
 
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Note - boys and girls - this is the attitude that had 'Remain' lose. That condescending 'we're better than you' attitude. Easy to spot in this guy because he reveals it in almost every post.
that [condescending 'we're better than you' ] attitude only comes after remain lost if I recall correctly.
Before the referendum, I suspected that leave leaning BBC staff (like John Humphrys, Andrew Neil) used the BBC to help leave by interviewing often that IEA's director (Kate Andrews) and invited Isabel Oakshott, JHB etc to do newspapers reviews.
 

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The problem is most of what he says is true, allowing for the fact that he has a Conservative scorn for the lower classes and sneers at them as a matter of form.
That’s nearly spot on. There are no lower classes as far as I am concerned. There are doers and wasters.

The doers are anything from, for example, a minimum wage cleaner to a neurosurgeon. The wasters sit around leaching off the fruits of the doer’s effort. It’s the wasters that I sneer at, not the mythical “lower classes”.
 
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That’s nearly spot on. There are no lower classes as far as I am concerned. There are doers and wasters.

The doers are anything from, for example, a minimum wage cleaner to a neurosurgeon. The wasters sit around leaching off the fruits of the doers effort. It’s the wasters that I sneer at, not the mythical “lower classes”.
Otherwise known as Corbynistas.
 
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