Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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Yep, UK cant survive without EU..
True, just before joining we ended up a failed and bankrupt nation with the IMF having to come in and run the economy. Signed up to European membership then, we've steadily grown back to a fair degree of health, thanks entirely to the economic union with the EU and the services and manufacturing we provide them with.

Now with Brexit we are volunteering to risk going back to the pre-IMF management decades of decline.
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Woosh

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Truly the people of large parts of the world would benefit hugely from EU membership.
the EU's success relies in (an important) part on their solidarity and social cohesion fund. It's much more that what we give to disaster relief effort to third world countries.
In order for the people of large parts of the world to benefit, these funds need to be scaled up like the original objectives of the millenium funds. It won't happen this century.
 

oldgroaner

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You are just a liar. You talk nothing but nonsense.

You cut and paste from your main sources of news ( The Mail and Express) then write some inane comment.

Try and have an original thought that isn't a lie or nonsense for once.
How would you know the difference? apart from an occasional pro Brexit rant, all you post are personal attacks as you just have.
But then, that's clearly all you are capable of.
 

oldgroaner

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Yep, UK cant survive without EU.. Plain as day. Where would we be without Junker, Macron, Merkel and the other 800 or so..
Its just what UK needs, psuedo Europeans interfering telling us how to behave, what to do, who to trade with and charging us in process. We, ve got a few on here. They are brilliant, highly intelligent and really well liked,so they tell us.
So you prefer being at the tender mercy of the clowns at Westminster who want the USA to tell us what to do?
And in the process sell off the nations assets and the NHS?
You can shove that for a start
By the way
Your fans appear to be confused as to what they are agreeing to! you should have warned them it was a micky take and not to agree!

By the way how many of the pro leave campaigners can be described in this way?
"They are brilliant, highly intelligent and really well liked,"
Not much of a judge of character are you if you think that any of the pathetic nut jobs involved in the leave camp qualify for anything other than derision!
 
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Danidl

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Yep, UK cant survive without EU.. Plain as day. Where would we be without Junker, Macron, Merkel and the other 800 or so..
Its just what UK needs, psuedo Europeans interfering telling us how to behave, what to do, who to trade with and charging us in process. We, ve got a few on here. They are brilliant, highly intelligent and really well liked,so they tell us.
Whats a psuedo European?. .. Is it code for immigrants? Or Americans of European decent?
 

Fingers

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So you prefer being at the tender mercy of the clowns at Westminster who want the USA to tell us what to do?
And in the process sell off the nations assets and the NHS?
You can shove that for a start
By the way
Your fans appear to be confused as to what they are agreeing to! you should have warned them it was a micky take and not to agree!

By the way how many of the pro leave campaigners can be described in this way?
"They are brilliant, highly intelligent and really well liked,"
Not much of a judge of character are you if you think that any of the pathetic nut jobs involved in the leave camp qualify for anything other than derision!

What 'nations assets' are you referring to?

And can you please show us who has said we are 'selling the NHS'?

Sounds like nonsense to me.
 
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Danidl

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What 'nations assets' are you referring to?

And can you please show us who has said we are 'selling the NHS'?

Sounds like nonsense to me.
Fingers we can both agree that selling the NHS or more plausibly privatisation or running it down would be greeted with fury by the UK's people. However it has been flagged up and last Tuesday , Mr Trump was asked a question about it, and his answer, was along the lines of in trade talks everything including the NHS is on the table. Now whether he actually knows or cares what the NHS is ,I will not speculate, he could believe it to be a ball bearing factory in Norwich ,but since a few days earlier and responding to comments from your Health secretary, "who said not on my watch" , Trump did refer to the NHS, he may actually have an inkling.
 

oldgroaner

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More BS for the mountain.
Yes indeed you still keep coming out with it, don't you? still when you have no credible argument in favour of Brexit to offer, what else can you do, but attack people and bluff?
 
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oldgroaner

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What 'nations assets' are you referring to?

And can you please show us who has said we are 'selling the NHS'?

Sounds like nonsense to me.
Perhaps you fail to comprehend that Farage has stated publicly that we should be moving to a Private Health insurance system to replace the NHS
And frankly I can't be bothered to do for you what you are too idle to do yourself
Get off your smug backside and check what the Tory and some Labour Mp's are intending to do for their backers in the healthcare sector.
 

Fingers

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Perhaps you fail to comprehend that Farage has stated publicly that we should be moving to a Private Health insurance system to replace the NHS
And frankly I can't be bothered to do for you what you are too idle to do yourself
Get off your smug backside and check what the Tory and some Labour Mp's are intending to do for their backers in the healthcare sector.

Utter nonsense.

Farage could state that he wants to have free beer and fags for everyone. It means about as much your wittering. I get he terrifies you but it doesn't mean the rest of us take him seriously.

Nothing he says is government policy. Government policy is the NHS is not for sale. Whatever that means. If it means anything its the opposite of what you have been extruding the last two days.

I have been through the real dangers to the NHS. I can't make you understand sense. But I can highlight your stupidity and nonsense. You are the human version of Chicken Little.

You really are an idiot.
 
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Fingers

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Fingers we can both agree that selling the NHS or more plausibly privatisation or running it down would be greeted with fury by the UK's people. However it has been flagged up and last Tuesday , Mr Trump was asked a question about it, and his answer, was along the lines of in trade talks everything including the NHS is on the table. Now whether he actually knows or cares what the NHS is ,I will not speculate, he could believe it to be a ball bearing factory in Norwich ,but since a few days earlier and responding to comments from your Health secretary, "who said not on my watch" , Trump did refer to the NHS, he may actually have an inkling.

What do you think that the yanks can't bid for now or sell us now?
 

oldgroaner

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The Channel 4 news carried the story of Michael Gove's confession that he used class "A" drugs twenty years ago.
Everyone seems to say "Oh well it was twenty years ago"
My take is simple
He didn't own up to a mistake
He confessed to a crime, when does he go to court
And before some smart ass asks
I don't drink, smoke, gamble or take any drugs except those prescribed, and in youth I briefly smoked and gave that up 50 years ago, and the last alcohol drink I had was around midnight on millenium eve.
 

oldgroaner

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Utter nonsense.

Farage could state that he wants to have free beer and fags for everyone. It means about as much your wittering. I get he terrifies you but it doesn't mean the rest of us take him seriously.

Nothing he says is government policy. Government policy is the NHS is not for sale. Whatever that means. If it means anything its the opposite of what you have been extruding the last two days.

I have been through the real dangers to the NHS. I can't make you understand sense. But I can highlight your stupidity and nonsense. You are the human version of Chicken Little.

You really are an idiot.
How can you allege yourself to be "in the media" and be so dumb? and once again you launch into an attack when one was not warranted

You are a fake aren't you?
 

Fingers

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The Channel 4 news carried the story of Michael Gove's confession that he used class "A" drugs twenty years ago.
Everyone seems to say "Oh well it was twenty years ago"
My take is simple
He didn't own up to a mistake
He confessed to a crime, when does he go to court
And before some smart ass asks
I don't drink, smoke, gamble or take any drugs except those prescribed, and in youth I briefly smoked and gave that up 50 years ago, and the last alcohol drink I had was around midnight on millenium eve.

Its called statute of limitations moron.

Look it up.
 
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Fingers

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How can you allege yourself to be "in the media" and be so dumb? and once again you launch into an attack when one was not warranted

You are a fake aren't you?

What are you talking about?

I give a clear response to your utter nonsense. And you call me dumb because I don't work in the media? Or because I do work in the media?

Utter nonsense. Every single post.
 
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