Brexit, for once some facts.
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It's not about entertainment and certainly not a beauty contest as a glance at Theresa May confirms.
Being PM is about being very capable, having immense wide ranging experience, being liked and respected throughout the world and being well connected with those who count.
Rory Stewart ticks all boxes far better than anyone else we've had in UK politics in the last century.
Boris Johnson cannot even begin to compare on any count.
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If only that were true...….Hasn't the Ukrainian President just won after playing the President on a comedy TV show. (with no political experience)
It is true if we want to improve. Clowns are good for circuses, but not for lasting achievement. And the Ukraine is hardly a pinnacle we should aim for!
Rory Stewart has a record of sensible decisions rapidly achieving improvements in virtually all of his many diverse appointments. It's why he's so widely respected and honoured.
Boris Johnson is just an empty shell.
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Not sure if it's JC's strategy, but very good chance it is his advisors strategy. Looking at JC closely I get the impression he does not want to be PM, in fact I suspect he would like to retire. He is not up to the job and probably always knew this and was persuaded into going for the leadership of the Labour Party by those around him.
Even someone as hopeless as TM would often look like a world beater in comparison to JC during question time. BJ or MG will make him look like a real light weight in the HoC. I think many people like Labours policies but lots of voters do not like JC, this could easily cause Labour not to win the next GE.
Although it superficially looks likely, I'm not so sure Johnson will win. His eratic behaviour and very poor performance since the referendum have lost him lots of support.
MPs know he can't get No Deal approved by the HoC. They also know the EU won't give anything further. They also know he won't accept May's Deal.
So those who think will realise they need someone who can solve that problem as it clearly isn't Johnson.
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I must admit I quiet like Rory Stewart too, as a remainer though I don't think he would stand a chance against any leaver if he was one of the two names going out to the Tori membership for election.
Many thousands were singing "Oh Jeremy Corbyn" at Glastonbury, who else in our politics achieves that?
They didn't include the older age groups, but they largely vote Tory anyway, so I don't see a big loss of popularity. Most of the voters who don't like JC are Tories who've never liked him.
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Theresa May was a Remainer too, still got the job.
Although a Remainer, Stewart's publically been insistent that the referendum vote must be honoured and we must leave the EU. He has supported May's deal and as PM would probably seek to amend that to give wider acceptance. Given his record of achieving difficult things and the widespread respect he enjoys, I think that well within his capabilities.
The problem as you say is if the Tory membership have the brains to vote for a solution, instead of voting for a continuing impasse under Johnson.
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there is no simple way to improve TM's deal.
The fundamental weakness of TM's deal is it's inferior to remain.
Accepting her deal is the same as accepting that Leave has won nothing and saddled the country with a large bill now and weaker international role and growth for the future.
The only way to save honour for leavers is to walk away, claiming that they believe in our ability to shine in whatever the international weather.
I agree, it's not simple. But if anyone can get it through with some little change it's Rory Stewart. He's not just far smarter than Theresa May, he's also far more widely respected and trusted.
Much as I'd like it, I don't think Leavers will be content to just walk away and let Remain win, when they can get a leave of sorts and perhaps more gains during the trade negotiations.
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I assume too that's their strategy.
they'll charge (a projected 5%) import duty on German automotives to force the EU to give them a deal.
However, whichever free trade deal the conservatives may negotiate with the EU, the NI backstop is not going away as long as there is no customs union, the DUP won't support it.
If you are quiet, deep thinking, considerate and of steady safe judgment, you are boring and you don’t receive any recognition, credit or media attention. But if you behave like a twat, make inappropriate statements and walk around disheveled with your shirt hanging beneath your jacket, covering your arse (Johnson), the media love you. You posses quirkinesses, are a character and thus attract all the attention.
It’s this infantile outlook by the media, and many members of the public who buy into it, that causes much harm and stops talent from prospering. In a way, I hope Johnson does become PM and then shats all over the idiots who were taken in by his buffoon act.
you are very disparaging of BJ but what has Corbyn ever done apart from support dodgy causes and governments. And of course he is just as much of an opportunist as you claim Johnson to be and will support anything to make himself look good. Just because a load of youngsters high on music and goodness knows what else hero worship him does not change what he is
With very good cause, he is an apology of a human being with even his own immediate family highly critical of him.
My post didn't praise him, merely observed the acclaim he received. He certainly isn't my choice as labour leader, but I don't get to choose so have to accept the status quo.
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A couple of terminated pregnancies to his credit seem proof enough to me!Really? Been there, done the count, got the T shirt?
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The Brexit Party offers Blood sweat toil and tears for 30 years as the price of leaving the EU
Tempting?
Frightening that there are large numbers of people who can connect in any way with someone so ignorant of reality.
Tempting?
Frightening that there are large numbers of people who can connect in any way with someone so ignorant of reality.
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