From what I read in the news you are going to kill them 'on site' so to speak. So burial is part of the plan so that you can say " We are keeping the Poles , they will never leave"...
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Rubbish. Making migrants leave never was and never will be part of BREXIT. That's just smearing by sore losers. Ignore them.
If and when any adjustment to the German population's age / number / skills profile was required, then that could have been achieved through a controlled programme of immigration. This is what Merkel is now saying she did not achieve and is trying to put distance between herself and her crime.
Control is both essential and sensible. The lunacy we saw a few months ago was neither of these things. Merkel has inflicted huge damage on her people and she will pay for that, as we are seeing.
"Kill them on site?" What?
Are you by any chance insane or a substance abuser? Care to provide a link to this news article?
Cheer up tillson, good news in the Express
Theresa May: We'll get good EU exit deal AND unlimited migration WILL finally end
It was as simple as that apparently!
Theresa May: We'll get good EU exit deal AND unlimited migration WILL finally end
It was as simple as that apparently!
Something like this perhaps in the Guardian?
"She also launched her campaign for a review of the international legal definitions of who can qualify as a refugee or be rejected as an economic migrant to chip away at the 1951 Geneva convention definitions of those who should not be returned to countries where they face serious threats to their lives or freedom."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/19/theresa-may-united-nations-right-claim-asylum-migration-refugees
Sending them back is indeed highly likely to amount to killing them on the spot,
Do you trust the Tory's to make such a judgement, than simply act out of expediency?
If you would care to stop for a minute calling people "substance abusers and insane" and not behave like one yourself, consider that.
Financial Times today. Merkel forced to change tack over refugees (migrants really, but we knew that).
Just a bit more reporting on her crime really and how she wishes that she had handled it differently. Perhaps if she had handled it in a way that the people who voted for her would have liked, then she wouldn't have been forced into this humiliating back-pedalling scenario.
I think we can look forward to a more sympathetic ear regarding the free movement of people during the BREXIT negotiations. I know that all member states must agree, but many of the tin-pot ones are required to do as Germany says or else the teat dries up.
Just a bit more reporting on her crime really and how she wishes that she had handled it differently. Perhaps if she had handled it in a way that the people who voted for her would have liked, then she wouldn't have been forced into this humiliating back-pedalling scenario.
I think we can look forward to a more sympathetic ear regarding the free movement of people during the BREXIT negotiations. I know that all member states must agree, but many of the tin-pot ones are required to do as Germany says or else the teat dries up.
Still no sign of killing people on site in that article, which was the original statement. Perhaps the statement was made for dramatic effect and was an attempt at smearing?
I think that the Guardian article is reporting on a tightening up on abuse of the system. This is a good thing and will facilitate the use of limited resources to help those genuine cases.
However, I can see how the Guardians article could be misinterpreted if one's head was smashed on crystal meth.
No tillson, if one clearly understands the meaning of this woman's action, she has previous "Form" on outrageously inhuman actions.
Her words are clear the intention is to return these people on our own disgression to where their lives are at risk.
What could be more straight forward than that.
Methinks you are Playing the drug abuse card far too often, why does this keep coming up?
For someone who flares up into rage when others play the "racist" card, can you explain your obsession with playing the "Substance Abuse" card when people disagree with your point of view.?
Are you in fact accusing me of "Drug Abuse?"
FYI I have heard of "Crystal Meth" perhaps you can tell me how it is ingested? what it tasted like (if taken by mouth, or is it injected?)
Your personal experience of it would be appreciated, as I haven't any knowledge on taking illegal drugs of any kind.
She just wants to crack down on abuse of the system. That's sensible.
I can't comprehend the quantum leap from making the immigration / asylum system less open to abuse, to one of killing people in cold blood. The only way that I can see how someone could make that connection is if their mind was temporarily impaired. Substance abuse could explain that.
So logically you are still accusing me of substance abuse are you? because I disagree?
Or are you asserting that to hold a different opinion than yours infers an impaired mind?
Which is it to be tillson?
By the way "Quantum leap" is not what you think
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Simple Definition of quantum
- physics : the smallest amount of many forms of energy
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Let me be clear. Anyone who interprets a reform of the immigration system as murder is not wired up correctly. Take that however you please.
Well done for that tactical retreat, I just wanted to see you wriggle out of the corner you had painted yourself into, and I'll accept the notion that it is entirely possible that I am no more "wired up correctly" than you are, shall we continue?
From your point of view (which I perceive very clearly) I'm sure you are sincere in thinking me quite mad.
Naturally, I sincerely return the favour!
I am still not impressed with May's attempt to endanger the lives of refugees, on the grounds of expediency, no matter how it is presented as logical by the Gutter press.
The only way tories know how to impose their warped dogma on others is by creating fear in the population through the creation of a bogey-man. Whether that be the Icelandic fishing fleet over fishing rights, the Argentinian government over the Falklands, The Egyptians over Suez, or the Spanish over Gibraltar, successive tory governments have used this same tactic to justify their use of military power against weaker nations to justify their financial or strategic interests around the world.
Closer to home, the Westminster elite has used the same bullying manner against the Irish, the Scots, the trade unionists and more recently, the junior doctors. When they cannot get their way by discussion and negotiation, they always resort to force or the threat of force - think back to the miners or even further back to Churchill sending tanks into Glasgow. There are many other instances of tory abuses of the rights of the poor in history such as the Littleport riots, the Luddites and further afield again, India, Kenya and even America.
As a supposedly civilised, first world nation, our record on human rights is amongst the worst in recorded history; both in the treatment of our own people under oligarchic regimes and in our disregard for the rights of people in other lands.
Today, it is patently clear that the tory party has not changed one bit and the bogey-man is now the mythical 'immigrant terrorist' therefore all refugees from places Britain has helped destroy through military might and/or economic sanctions must be regarded as potential terrorists. Of course, the terrorist attacks on the British mainland have been the work of home-grown evil-minded people but that is casually disregarded in favour of a foreign bogey-man.
It might be worth remembering that we lost the 'cod wars'; we had a phyrric victory against the Argentinians; we lost to the Irish; we didn't do too well in the Suez dispute, nor did we achieve anything worthwhile against the Mau-Mau in Kenya.
We also came second in America and we didn't have the balls to stand up to the Chinese over Hong Kong, even though the vast majority of its people declared a desire to remain under British rule. Now, because the tories can't get their own way in the EU, we threaten to walk out and do our own trade deals with whichever countries we like.
Of course, when you control every form of media and are able to appeal easily to the simpletons and sickos of society you depend on to support your evil policies, it give you every right do whatever you like, particularly as whenever it all goes wrong you are never made to suffer any kind of punishment.
Tom
too true, reminds me of my time in the nhs, two experiences - bullying, mindless change imposed by cost cutting management - and the goodwill of clinicians doing responsible work despite this. but before I left the goodwill was either running out or gone. there is something to be said for what comes around goes around - all the carefully concealed racists and other self centred types who voted brexit should be careful for what they wish for, they may get the impoverished heartless little shithole with no problem with migrants at all.
It seems "The May" is becoming more delusional than even Boris!
"Theresa May told the EU’s posturing leaders yesterday that they will have no choice but to agree a trade deal with Brexit Britain."
And award us all a Million Pounds each too no doubt!
Mind you perhaps this is even less likely!
Nigel Farage admits he would MARRY Theresa May... but warns that won't stop him holding the PM to account if she fails to deliver on Brexit
Now that reminds me of an old Les Dawson joke.
"I sent a photo of the Mother in Law to the Lonely Hearts Society.
They sent it back saying they weren't that lonely!
And May is busily trying to make North Korea look as if they have a better Human Rights Policy that we have by telling the UN that uncontrolled Migration MUST be stopped.
Note the Arrogance, just who are these so called British to demand anything from the rest of the world? simply because they are too greedy to help the needy and too quick to use war as a policy that drives them from their homes?
"Theresa May told the EU’s posturing leaders yesterday that they will have no choice but to agree a trade deal with Brexit Britain."
And award us all a Million Pounds each too no doubt!
Mind you perhaps this is even less likely!
Nigel Farage admits he would MARRY Theresa May... but warns that won't stop him holding the PM to account if she fails to deliver on Brexit
Now that reminds me of an old Les Dawson joke.
"I sent a photo of the Mother in Law to the Lonely Hearts Society.
They sent it back saying they weren't that lonely!
And May is busily trying to make North Korea look as if they have a better Human Rights Policy that we have by telling the UN that uncontrolled Migration MUST be stopped.
Note the Arrogance, just who are these so called British to demand anything from the rest of the world? simply because they are too greedy to help the needy and too quick to use war as a policy that drives them from their homes?
And just to prove we never learn, this from the Daily Mail this morning.
"Brief encounter: Theresa May meets outgoing Obama as she tells UN Britain will put troops into Somalia and £750m foreign aid into immigration hotspots'. But who will her long-term Special Relationship be with?
Once again a military intervention and as if in penance a pittance spent
allegedly intended to help the situation, but actually as both a sop and means of making desperate people suffer, and keeping them out and in harms way.
Why oh why are we doing another Military Intervention? have we gone mad?
"Brief encounter: Theresa May meets outgoing Obama as she tells UN Britain will put troops into Somalia and £750m foreign aid into immigration hotspots'. But who will her long-term Special Relationship be with?
Once again a military intervention and as if in penance a pittance spent
allegedly intended to help the situation, but actually as both a sop and means of making desperate people suffer, and keeping them out and in harms way.
Why oh why are we doing another Military Intervention? have we gone mad?
I understand your question is rhetorical but as I mentioned in a previous post, it's the British way although really, it's the tory way. it's what the rich, land-owning monarchists do in the name of the people. That they do is simply a huge lie as any such military interventions are not about protecting the interests of ordinary people; they are all to do with the interests of the rich and only the rich.
Those people I describe are tories and anyone who has ever read history could come to no other conclusion. The tory way is imposition, aggression and downright violence. That has always been their way of controlling the lower classes and weak, foreign nations.
May is simply the latest in a long line of fascists with no interest in any kind of social improvement for the population. Her main concern and that of all tories is about increasing the wealth of the few at the expense of the many. In that regard, any overseas sojourns by British troops makes money for the rich suppliers of military equipment and armaments for which those on PAYE, the only people who pay the correct amount of tax, foot the bill - so much for austerity and being 'all in it
together'!
Tom