So exactly what purpose do they serve Flecc. By your definition the are impotent. (in its governmental sense)
Sort of useless really then...
Chocolate fireguards spring to mind.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Sort of useless really then...
Chocolate fireguards spring to mind.
I've already explained, to promote the harmonisation of the member countries towards union, by agreement with those countries.
They and their predecessors have been very successful in that, guiding an ever increasing number of countries from the Coal and Steel Community, to the EEC (Common Market), to transport harmonisation and a borderless Europe, then through eight treaties including the Maastricht treaty which commenced political union.
That's a huge range of achievement, far from useless.
I wish our governments had been as successful over the same 68 years.
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What? She has no actual power. Is that your way out of the corner you got yourself in? I expected better than that.
Sorry James but wrong again. She can prorogue parliament, which shuts down the House of Commons and prevents any MP from going to it. That power was renewed again in 2014 by parliament since it's a desirable power in some situations and is also used to shut down each parliament to make way for the incoming one once the Queen accepts it.
Until 2014 for the whole of her previous reign she could actually dismiss an elected government.
These powers with the full support of the armed forces and police.
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You want it both ways Flecc. The EU are powerful enough to succeed with all these "achievements" but not powerful enough to either reflect the public they represent or get turn outs over 42%.
Seems to me, yet again, you claim all positive aspects for the EU and all negative ones to individual countries.
And right now we have the following unelected members of the cabinet:
Baroness Williams of Trafford
Minister of State for Countering Extremism
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
Minister of State for the Commonwealth and the UN at the Foreign & Commonwealth Office
Lord Callanan
Minister of State
Baroness Blackwood
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (Lords)
The Rt Hon Lord Henley
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State
Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Minister for Faith
Baroness Fairhead CBE
Minister of State for Trade and Export Promotion
Lord Agnew
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for the School System
Lord Gardiner of Kimble
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Rural Affairs and Biosecurity
Baroness Sugg CBE
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Transport
... and lots more.
You really don't understand, no matter how often it is explained to you do you? because you simply don't want to.
Another post that proves you haven't understood what is going on and just carry on believing your own inverted version of reality.
Why so perverse? I've just explained the EU has no power, only that of the member countries granted to them. The EU achievements were in persuading most of them towards union.
Clearly they haven't been as successful in persuading them towards democratic fairness. Just as clearly that's the fault of those member countries who refuse to co-operate. Like the way the UK has refused to co-operate in the European project. That's not the EU's fault, it's our fault.
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They are not impotent,in the political sense they initiate policy. Now this was all explained to you a few times already, so do you really want to join the slow learners stream?.
The EU has so many checks and balances, and is so obviously democratic and consensus driven ,that it is,a wonder anything gets agreed.
You're quite right of course, I was only considering the main cabinet, not the numerous lesser posts.
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Unlike you,I am always in contact with my senses, so don't need to lie, distort facts, or forge posts as you do.
You didn't simply alter a post, you falsified a message and tagged my name onto it.
And you complain that the EU is dishonest?
Come to your senses before commenting on mine, your integrity after twice now interfering with my posts is rock bottom
They are accountable to the Government of the Country they represent and are literally that Governments agents .
Since that Government at the moment is the Conservatives
This statement when referring to our commisioner only (as we can't speak for the others)
Was "elected", and i use that word in the loosest terms possible, by a Clique, a Cabal, an Inner Circle of the most corrupt and reprehensible morons you could ever think of."
Is true.
logically he would be the last person to ask that of and expect a correct answer
Yep! What was I thinking.logically he would be the last person to ask that of and expect a correct answer
OG, I must demur . They are representatives selected by their country but not in the fashion of an ambassador. They cannot be recalled, and even where the government changes, they remain for the duration of their tenure. They do take an oath of being accountable to the EU , and were they to misbehave it is EU institutions ,.. audit committees which would sanctions them. .. In exactly the same way that an MP is free to misbehave, lose the party whip etc, and not resign for the duration of the parliament.
Errr no. They are civil servants, advisors and envoys. They are assistants to members of the cabinet