Shouldn't you hand out vomit bags with that?
I rather liked the Tintin image further down the twitter page.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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I rather liked the Tintin image further down the twitter page.
What has that to do with the EU?
Elm House was run by Indian-born Haroon ‘Harry’ Kasir with his German born wife. We allowed him in from India, nothing to do with the EU, and we were lax in allowing him to get away with the crimes he was presiding over.
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The urban myth slayer that is the groaner asked for more examples.
I look forward to seeing him slash this one
What do you mean, "dodgy"? Haven't you heard they are now actually hiring:
Seaborne Freight: The No-Deal Brexit Ferry Firm Is Finally Hiring Staff
Two roles are being advertised – just two months before Brexit day.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/remember-no-deal-brexit-ferry-firm-seaborne-freight-they-are-finally-hiring-staff_uk_5c4b060be4b0e1872d42da81?ncid=other_pinterest_fs145zajjbm
With the usual one month notice, and I have no idea if that is usual within the shipping industry?, someone selected today who is actually employed rather than on the dole could be employed with just one month to go. Phew - a stevedore and an operations assistant.
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I think that is unfair. Because someone has a different opinion to you, that does not make them a clown. Have you ever considered for one moment that some people may believe that any financial, trade or other penalty is an acceptable price to pay in exchange for leaving the EU. I personally don’t think it is, but clearly others do, and I respect that. We don’t know the full consequences of leaving either. It may not be as bad as predicted, it’s a gamble, but a gamble for which I don’t like the odds, but others do. That doesn’t make them an idiot.
All that you are achieving with your attitude is making people more certain that they want to leave the EU. You aren’t a good role model. You need to empathise more, understand people and try to take them with you and your ideas. All you are doing now is alienating large sections of people and you will never achieve anything.
You are not alone with your attitude and that is precisely why we have a divided country and a deadlock.
It is not 900 jobs, it is probably 5 times that. Each meeting,involves hotels, car rentals,taxis, air fares each proposal involves solicitors , lobbying, graphics designers . Each day of operation needs external IT support , canteen staff, ...the list goes on and on...
Agreed - I just wanted to keep my initial post of lament nice and simple.
You even got that wrong, can't you get anything right?
Our error nothing to do with the EU was it?
Please try checking your Urban Myths for truth before posting
Here is something to remind you about the leave Front man
And those are the words of someone who knows what he is talking about by looking into a mirror
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Dellingpole admitting he got it terribly terribly wrong:
"Last night I died horribly in front of nearly one million viewers on the BBC political talk show This Week.
It was so unpleasant I never want to experience it again. But of course I will. Car crash moments are an inevitable consequence of appearing in the public eye — especially if like me you’re one of those chancers who prefers to leave everything to the last minute in the hope you can wing it using a mixture of charm, impish humour, and nuggets of vaguely relevant info snatched on the hoof from the recesses of your memory.
More often than not this technique works. It’s one of the reasons Oxbridge graduates tend to do well in this shallow culture of ours: their education essentially entails spending three or four years being trained in the art of bllusiht."
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/25/my-car-crash-interview-bbc-andrew-neil/
"Last night I died horribly in front of nearly one million viewers on the BBC political talk show This Week.
It was so unpleasant I never want to experience it again. But of course I will. Car crash moments are an inevitable consequence of appearing in the public eye — especially if like me you’re one of those chancers who prefers to leave everything to the last minute in the hope you can wing it using a mixture of charm, impish humour, and nuggets of vaguely relevant info snatched on the hoof from the recesses of your memory.
More often than not this technique works. It’s one of the reasons Oxbridge graduates tend to do well in this shallow culture of ours: their education essentially entails spending three or four years being trained in the art of bllusiht."
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/25/my-car-crash-interview-bbc-andrew-neil/
Just what sort of person thinks it is OK to make great claims without even understanding it himself? He obviously holds his audience, both of the program and now of that article, in utter contempt.
about 28% of those responding to polls do not want to pay the divorce bill. Given that 52% voted for leave, that is roughly equivalent to half of the leavers do not want to pay that divorce bill.
If there is another referendum, some of the leavers may think that the cost is too high and will vote to remain.
James Delingpole was ridiculed not so much because he accepted that he did not know the answers, but because had he known the answers, he would not have made that video.
If he had read up Minford like he said he should have, he would have known that Minford knew that would wipe out UK manufacturing, the sheep farmers and the cheese makers that Andrew Neil quizzed him about.
Leavers should really stick to principles, pay the bill and leave rather than debate remainers on economics.
The difficulty for leavers when it comes to defending their case, is simply this
They haven't got any principles!
They are Guilty as charged and should really be asking for a lenient sentence taking into account several cases of illegal electroral overspending fro dark money sources, and millions of data breach offenses, along with the obvious offenses of lying and misleading the public.
As I explained elsewhere the sort of post you just made is complete nonsense.,
These are your words not mine
" Because someone has a different opinion to you, that does not make them a clown.
You made that statement, not me.
Those who still cling to the notion that Brexit is a good idea are never going to change that attitude, and nothing you or I can do will change that.
Trying to blame people like myself for the attitude of leave supporters is so obviously wrong is is pitiful, for how many actually have engaged in conversation with someone of a differing opinion to their own such as myself?
There is absolutely no proof to support that , no evidence at all.
This is a typical Urban myth
Opposition to Brexit is unaffected by this smoke screen of an excuse, one of many used in support of Brexit
Try to understand this simple fact: if leave voters could be be induced to change their minds by any facts, they would have done so long ago, as you seem to have.
Are you proposing that some of the others are so simple minded that a few kind words and gentle persuasion will con them where facts have utterly failed?
No amount of "Empathising will take these people with us" as you naively imagine.
Two years hasn't made a difference has it?
Is your theory that that is the case because someone belittled them?
Has the point escaped you that that was the very accusation that Gove used to enrage them against remain and engage them with the leave campaign?
Ironic that a charlatan reverse engineered that lie to act as a powerful recruiting ploy, and he did it right after the referendum result before attitudes has even had a chance to harden. So it was in fact untrue!
And it was so effective you now trot it out again?
Remarkable how it has become fixed in the public imagination as if it is biblical truth.
It was a confidence trick employed by Gove and very effective.
And here we are more than two years down line and you are so convinced by this shill that you point it at me as some sort of justification of your view point?
And what defences are actually being levelled on here on behalf of the leave point of view?
Nothing other that posts intended to be controversial lacking convincing factual content.
People who chose to vote leave are not clowns, but people who try to be disruptive because they lack ammunition in support of their side of the argument and seek to derail the debate deserve to be described as what they are, Clowns.
The country is divided because Brexit is divisive, not the attitude of people to it and each other until is is finished with that division will remain.
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Strange how the UK can demand far off Venezuela agree to an election within eight days. When the same government has refused a second referendum, it is insisted there is not enough time, and the whole HoC wandered off for How Long? over Christmas.
When it comes to the f-word, in this case - fair, how can the 2016 referendum result stand after the illegality surrounding it?
And the very last thing we want is anyone thinking they can declare they are a new leader and get supported by so-called world leaders. Yet this is what we appear to be endorsing.
UK tells Venezuelan president: call fair election or stand down
Nicolás Maduro issued with eight-day ultimatum before Britain backs Juan Guaidó
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/26/european-leaders-ready-to-recognise-guaido-as-venezuelan-president
When it comes to the f-word, in this case - fair, how can the 2016 referendum result stand after the illegality surrounding it?
And the very last thing we want is anyone thinking they can declare they are a new leader and get supported by so-called world leaders. Yet this is what we appear to be endorsing.
UK tells Venezuelan president: call fair election or stand down
Nicolás Maduro issued with eight-day ultimatum before Britain backs Juan Guaidó
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/26/european-leaders-ready-to-recognise-guaido-as-venezuelan-president
one thing bugs me a little about the idea that the EU makes their members vote again and again until arriving at the right result. Between the votes, the EU make changes to the treaty to win over doubters.
Does this mean that the method is anti-democratic?
I am not sure about this. Here are two scenarios:
1. Vote on leaving the EU once in 2016, follow through then a few years down the line, 2025, a new government sets up another vote to rejoin this time.
2. Vote again and again until arriving at a clear margin (like 60/40) before leaving.
Which one is more democratic?
Yer Guv iz undemycratic of the EU changing them treaties when we gone disagreed wiv one innit?
The above is a very good brochure which showcases all that is wrong with your approach and attitude towards anyone who supports a Leave vote, or has a different outlook to you. I think you’ve covered it all.