Glad you wrote that - it was my reaction as well!
Brexit, for once some facts.
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He would't have become Prime Minister without the backing of the Right Wing Press.
That tells you all you need to know
Tory Blair, which is why I never voted for New Labour, they were as dodgy as Brexit is now.
one thing he definitely was a disaster!!!!!
Inevitable I suppose
Quite a few Facebook ads against Theresa May's Brexit deal running from pages with very little information about who is behind them. https://www.facebook.com/pg/betterbrexit/ads/?ref=page_internal … cc.@carolecadwalla
Strange, nobody sent me one!
Quite a few Facebook ads against Theresa May's Brexit deal running from pages with very little information about who is behind them. https://www.facebook.com/pg/betterbrexit/ads/?ref=page_internal … cc.
Strange, nobody sent me one!
Better Brexit are apparently pushing "Common Market 2.0"
It's a Norway Plus deal and you can read about it here
http://betterbrexit.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Common-Market-2.0.pdf
Here is an amusing bit of nonsense
"
A leading role in Europe,
outside the EU
Brexit is not just a reset moment for the UK,
but also for Europe. By leaving the EU and
joining the EEA via the EFTA pillar the UK would
kick-start the re-imagining of the European
project that is so urgently and desperately
required.
Really? do they really believe a single word of than nonsense?
It's comical!
It's a Norway Plus deal and you can read about it here
http://betterbrexit.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Common-Market-2.0.pdf
Here is an amusing bit of nonsense
"
A leading role in Europe,
outside the EU
Brexit is not just a reset moment for the UK,
but also for Europe. By leaving the EU and
joining the EEA via the EFTA pillar the UK would
kick-start the re-imagining of the European
project that is so urgently and desperately
required.
Really? do they really believe a single word of than nonsense?
It's comical!
Is this true?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/13/eu-preparing-to-delay-brexit-until-at-least-july?CMP=share_btn_tw
EU preparing to delay Brexit until at least July
Brussels expecting UK request to extend 29 March deadline, with May’s deal on brink
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/13/eu-preparing-to-delay-brexit-until-at-least-july?CMP=share_btn_tw
EU preparing to delay Brexit until at least July
Brussels expecting UK request to extend 29 March deadline, with May’s deal on brink
No idea if it is true, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if that is what they are expecting and preparing for.
Obviously got some recently sacked advertising copywriters to write that crap.
it seems to be true.
the EU prepares for the possibility of a second referendum which needs 6 months to organise.
It seems odd but none of this reporting, picks up on the fact that is not the EUs call. The early December decision from ECJ ,was that the UK could at any time and for any, or no reason, withdraw the Article 50 letter, ..and or redate it to July or December next . .. That is while still a member. What it did say was it would need to have gone through the normal process of the state.. which presumably means a vote of parliament.
So the question then becomes, who will move the motion in the HoC?.
In the Express
Project Fear: Episode 2 : The Empire Strikes Back
24 HOURS TO SAVE BREXIT: May warns no Brexit more likely than no deal as final vote looms
PARLIAMENT is now more likely to block Brexit than allow Britain to leave the EU without a deal, Theresa May is to warn.
"In a rallying cry ahead of a critical Commons vote on her deal, the Prime Minister will use a speech in Stoke-on-Trent on Monday to urge MPs to consider the "consequences" of their actions on the faith of British people in democracy. With less than 36 hours to go until the much-anticipated vote, Mrs May will warn that trust in politicians will suffer "catastrophic harm" if they fail to implement the result of the referendum. The Prime Minister will say that while the two sides in the 2016 referendum disagreed on many things, they were united on one thing - that "what the British people decided, the politicians would implement".
The fly in this ointment is simply this little phrase
"what the British people decided"
The eligible didn't include millions of Expats directly affected by the outcome, that would almost certainly have easily reversed the decision, nor of course the fact that there was so much criminal fiddling that should have rendered the referendum void anyway.
What kind of Democracy is based on excluding the most affected voters and ignoring breaches of the law?
And it was a marginal win anyway.
Sure there will be protests if Brexit is cancelled
But if you want to see "Catastrophic Harm" it's real name is Brexit.
Just go ahead with it and see chaos result.
Project Fear: Episode 2 : The Empire Strikes Back
24 HOURS TO SAVE BREXIT: May warns no Brexit more likely than no deal as final vote looms
PARLIAMENT is now more likely to block Brexit than allow Britain to leave the EU without a deal, Theresa May is to warn.
"In a rallying cry ahead of a critical Commons vote on her deal, the Prime Minister will use a speech in Stoke-on-Trent on Monday to urge MPs to consider the "consequences" of their actions on the faith of British people in democracy. With less than 36 hours to go until the much-anticipated vote, Mrs May will warn that trust in politicians will suffer "catastrophic harm" if they fail to implement the result of the referendum. The Prime Minister will say that while the two sides in the 2016 referendum disagreed on many things, they were united on one thing - that "what the British people decided, the politicians would implement".
The fly in this ointment is simply this little phrase
"what the British people decided"
The eligible didn't include millions of Expats directly affected by the outcome, that would almost certainly have easily reversed the decision, nor of course the fact that there was so much criminal fiddling that should have rendered the referendum void anyway.
What kind of Democracy is based on excluding the most affected voters and ignoring breaches of the law?
And it was a marginal win anyway.
Sure there will be protests if Brexit is cancelled
But if you want to see "Catastrophic Harm" it's real name is Brexit.
Just go ahead with it and see chaos result.
the Daily Mail is hedging it's bets with these two articles
From a Labour vote of no-confidence, to the Norway option and a People's Vote, ROSS CLARK explains why every alternative to Theresa May's Brexit deal will end in disaster
Cancelling Brexit would't be a disaster, just logical
And
They claim to be asserting parliamentary sovereignty, but what they are plotting is constitutional outrage: STEPHEN GLOVER on the insidious Remainer coup that must be smashed
Strange language indeed, why "insidious" and "coup"?
From a Labour vote of no-confidence, to the Norway option and a People's Vote, ROSS CLARK explains why every alternative to Theresa May's Brexit deal will end in disaster
Cancelling Brexit would't be a disaster, just logical
And
They claim to be asserting parliamentary sovereignty, but what they are plotting is constitutional outrage: STEPHEN GLOVER on the insidious Remainer coup that must be smashed
Strange language indeed, why "insidious" and "coup"?
And just what fiddling or other unacceptable practices are already happening based on the assumption a second referendum is likely?
And what has the government done to address the issues surrounding fiddling in the 2016 referendum?
Esther Mc Vey was on BBC1 this morning, selling no deal.
apparently, our civil servants have prepared us for no deal, the EU still needs us more than we need them, we don't pay £39 billion and we will still have an implementation period followed by free trade deal.
so what do you think?
apparently, our civil servants have prepared us for no deal, the EU still needs us more than we need them, we don't pay £39 billion and we will still have an implementation period followed by free trade deal.
so what do you think?
In answer to the first paragraph
They have already t ried using the same trick with targeted Facebook adverts directed by (so far) undisclosed methods in support of May so we can expect more of the same
In answer to the second paragraph
Sweet Fanny Adams, as they have benefited from the law breaking leave Campaign, after all it got May into Number 10 and gives them the best chance of keeping their off shore assets.
Maybe not a bad outcome. I have an Hitachi cassette recorder and it chews C120 cassettes up. It’s ok with C90s and C60s, but the 120s area nightmare. Imagine what their power stations would be like!
I suspect that micro-targeting for political ads has been stopped, and also fake news.
Political advertising itself is of course allowed.
A political party is defined by its members and their choices. Labour chose to have Blair as their leader and to follow his path to power. Blair and everything which went with him was what Labour chose to be. Nothing stands still, what we understand something to be today can change tomorrow. Blair was Labour during that era and rebranding it New Labour changes nothing.