I don't actually see what basis tommie has for disagreeing with this post?
He can choose not to believe. Or dislike. Or object to offensive language. But how do you disagree with statements of fact?
Brexit, for once some facts.
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He can choose not to believe. Or dislike. Or object to offensive language. But how do you disagree with statements of fact?
Well to be fair it was somewhat encouraging to see your good folk give that blonde SF bint a wide berth in your latest presidential election.
I mean in all seriousness what have SF to offer any of the people of Ireland?
They held office in our Assembly and their Departments were a disaster, most of them don`t have a clue as politicians.
Just disagreeing with your inference that Peckham has very little crime. My close family that have lived and worked for 50 years in this area would tell me a different story, the main reason why they have moved out to France and back to Ireland
SF attract the protest vote, aabd in the recent election because there was someone who was prepared to make even more outrageous comments, he got it instead.
Unfortunately or fortunately ..there are as number of very able younger politicians in the SF party,and they can speak. However they are required to speak on certain subjects like robots.
You are showing the world exactly what you are with that comment, carry on by all means undermining Northern Ireland on the mainland.
Remember, we don't need Northern Ireland, like you it's more trouble than it's worth a left over colony past it's sell by date.
As a state it relies on the mainland's goodwill and generosity to survive.
Also like you it's a nuisance we could well do without.
And this morning in the Daily Mail
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Biggest poll conducted since EU referendum finds 54 per cent would now choose to stay in bloc - but most don't mind if Brexit means Northern Ireland leaving the UK "
Time to learn to be Irish tommie! (and to keep your mouth shut)
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I find it difficult to care about NI being part of the UK or not as follows:
First, the people of NI should be the primary choosers;
Second, I want the rump UK (or just Wales, as that is where I am!) to have a good, cordial relationship with the whole of Ireland whether in one or two lumps;
Third, any such change should not be predicated on brexit or remain - it should be decided on its own merits.
This morning the Guardian has an article by a Der Spiegel journalist:
Britain has never looked so foolish in the world’s eyes
Jan Fleischhauer
It’s symptomatic of Britain’s decline when a man such as Boris Johnson is regarded as one of its clearest thinkers
I have always admired the British. We owe them afternoon tea, Monty Python and the Beatles. This is more than many nations have achieved in their history. I was also one of the few columnists in Germany who found it ridiculous to be angry at our British neighbours after they decided to leave the European club they had once helped to make great. I felt sorry whenever I saw the British prime minister stumble through a European summit, with her crooked smile and her even more crooked offers. Right now, though, I’m feeling less sympathetic. In fact, I have been catching myself thinking: “Go with God. But go!” Maybe this week could be the week things become clear. But who would bet on it?
The UK is making a spectacular demonstration of how to make a fool of yourself with the entire world looking on. What was once the most powerful empire on Earth can’t even find its way to the door without tripping over its own feet. When Theresa May arrives in Brussels with yet another proposal, you can be sure it won’t be worth the paper it’s written 24 hours later. She either presents ideas that Brussels has long ago rejected, her plans have been rejected by her own party, or Boris Johnson tears them to pieces in his newspaper column.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/06/britain-foolish-decline-boris-johnson
I find the headline expresses how I imagine the rest of the world is viewing us.
Britain has never looked so foolish in the world’s eyes
Jan Fleischhauer
It’s symptomatic of Britain’s decline when a man such as Boris Johnson is regarded as one of its clearest thinkers
I have always admired the British. We owe them afternoon tea, Monty Python and the Beatles. This is more than many nations have achieved in their history. I was also one of the few columnists in Germany who found it ridiculous to be angry at our British neighbours after they decided to leave the European club they had once helped to make great. I felt sorry whenever I saw the British prime minister stumble through a European summit, with her crooked smile and her even more crooked offers. Right now, though, I’m feeling less sympathetic. In fact, I have been catching myself thinking: “Go with God. But go!” Maybe this week could be the week things become clear. But who would bet on it?
The UK is making a spectacular demonstration of how to make a fool of yourself with the entire world looking on. What was once the most powerful empire on Earth can’t even find its way to the door without tripping over its own feet. When Theresa May arrives in Brussels with yet another proposal, you can be sure it won’t be worth the paper it’s written 24 hours later. She either presents ideas that Brussels has long ago rejected, her plans have been rejected by her own party, or Boris Johnson tears them to pieces in his newspaper column.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/06/britain-foolish-decline-boris-johnson
I find the headline expresses how I imagine the rest of the world is viewing us.
Fine in principle, but of course there is always an opposite point of view, which could ask why should the mainland have to keep a province it decides it doesn't want?
Deplorable maybe, but I can give you a list as long as your arm of places this glorious nation of ours has abandoned in the past when it suits them.
We have "Form" in that way.
All it would need is for the Daily Mail to continue along the path it has started on, and the masses would be rooting to abandon Northern Ireland.
tommie and others like him work against their own best interests by rocking the boat
Beat me to it! just finished reading the same article.
I was referring to Theresa May as being the common denominator in the the truly terrifying murder, maiming and disfigurement orgy which is taking place on the streets of London. It is Theresa May who has cut police numbers, Theresa May who has curtailed stop & search, Theresa May who has severely weakened the prison service. The list of failures goes on.
However, it is interesting that you identify black people as a potential common denominator, something which I had not thought of or mentioned, but upon reflection I think you may be correct. The murderers are indeed mainly black.
Taking your black person theory one step further, this could explain why constables are asking disproportionately more black people to assist them with their enquiries, and to ask black people to turn out their pockets. It wouldn’t, for instance, make sense to stop a 76 year old white lady and search her for possession of a zombie knife. The same would apply to a 76 year old black lady. I suppose there has to be a degree of profiling, and this is what we are witnessing in the statistics you provided.
Thanks for giving us another viewpoint, other than Theresa May, to consider OG.
Edit: I see there has been another London slaying overnight. (OG, no mention of ethnicity. Will be interesting to see if you theory holds. Watch this space)
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For the record, it isn't my theory, simply indicated by the figures, and may well point the finger back in the direction of Theresa May's policies, for the simple reason that no ethnic group is by nature more likely to offend than any other unless it has what it regards as good reason to.
What is needed is, as I said to understand the reason behind the figures and introduce policies to eliminate them.
Essentially I'm agreeing with you, up to a point, the common denominator is Theresa May, the ethnic response is the result of bad policies
Where I disagree is with the notion that a few extra coppers will solve the problem, they won't.
What is needed is understanding the morivation behind the crimes and changing policies to counter that.
Essentially I gave you another viewpoint, which you apparently missed and added details to the one you had.
And Brexit is the next point where bad policies will result in a violent reaction, this time on a much less localised ethnic front.
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Unlike good, Christian lodge members, do you mean 'tommie'? Maybe they should take lessons from the likes of IP junior?
Tom
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Mmm, I'm not sure I understand that part, 'oyster' but I do firmly believe that divesting Great Britain of the NI acquisition of a previous age with different objectives from those important in the 21st century, would be a great service to the mainland British people.
Tom
What an idiotic proposal, handing over a well governed country to one half the size which is incapable of maintaining a government for itself, as well as being legislatively incompetent.
They even think pedelecs are motorbikes!
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It's his norm. Each time I've posted him the published facts on our most recent subject he's disagreed whenever the facts don't support his jaundiced, blinkered and bigoted views.
Little wonder they are unable to govern themselves, they'd argue with a mirror.
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I'd award Jan Fleischhauer journalist of the year for that alone, a perfect summing up of the UK's silly self-inflicted situation.
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By all means criticise Theresa May for her incompetence, I do too. But please use the facts and don't stoop to Tommie's level of exaggeration. You are right about there being an adverse effect from the police reductions, but for the wrong reason. Read on.
From the 1990s to 2017, covering the whole period of police reductions, Londons murders have reduced by 28%, that reducing still further this year to over 35% down to date.
All the current fuss was brought about by a media moron taking a sudden clump of London murders in January and February and comparing that to New York's lower rate in those two months. Since then the media have never let up, aided by the Metropolitan Police distorted propaganda campaign for more money.
Fact, this year's murders are down on last years, from 131 to 118 to date. Back in the 1990s it was nearly 200 annually.
Compared to comparable cities and to it's own history, London does not have a particular murder problem currently. There certainly is a real problem related to police reductions, the murders that occur are not being investigated thoroughly any more, resulting in increasing numbers remaining unsolved with no conviction. That is the real problem brought about by Theresa May, not any fictitious increase in numbers of murders.
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You not envisage the extra expense of removing the diagonal red cross from the Union Jack?...the so called Saltire of St. Patrick, all those tea towels and bunting which would have to be recalled, as unfit for purpose. Not to mention that a particular political party might have to give up the nickname Tory, as it means Irish outlaw.
I wonder if the reduced murder rates in January February in New York ,are due to their inclement weather,whereas warmer weather in London allows more people being out and about