Brexit, for once some facts.

[Fingers]

Not important in the great scheme of things .. but as Tesco says every little bit.. . Netflix had agreed to increase the amount of EU sourced material for Europe in 2020. ,and as the UK has a thriving entertainment industry, would have been expected to get a disproportionate share.. everyone speaks English, not everyone speaks Dutch. But now.... Outside the EU it will be considered in the agreement as equivalent to US content.

If I get the gist of what you are saying...then I think you are implying that our studios will get less work from Netflix?

That’s actually good. They have hoovered up and hired so many sound stages that there is a waiting list for up to two years for others to use. Diversity is good. Netflix makes at least 70% dirge.

Also it might be the fact that Netflix has overstretched itself. The amount of content they are making is ridiculous. They are losing money massively and had a significant dip of new subscribers in the last quarter. Investors are starting to sweat as projections of new subscribers was down a lot. It’s really not a Brexit issue. But heck. Whack it on the list.

It changes nothing anyway.

 

[oldgroaner]

Tbf we’ve already got one.

Haven’t we Sir Groans a Lot?

And a couple of failed Brexit supporters who can't find anything to support their side of the argument so resort to taunts, of course

 

[oldgroaner]

If I get the gist of what you are saying...then I think you are implying that our studios will get less work from Netflix?

That’s actually good. They have hoovered up and hired so many sound stages that there is a waiting list for up to two years for others to use. Diversity is good. Netflix makes at least 70% dirge.

Also it might be the fact that Netflix has overstretched itself. The amount of content they are making is ridiculous. They are losing money massively and had a significant dip of new subscribers in the last quarter. Investors are starting to sweat as projections of new subscribers was down a lot. It’s really not a Brexit issue. But heck. Whack it on the list.

It changes nothing anyway.

Rather like your posts.

 

[oldgroaner]

From the Exress
"
Brexit deal by November! May delivers ULTIMATUM – ‘Extending negotiations isn't an option'
THERESA May on Wednesday night warned EU leaders that she will walk away from the Brexit negotiations unless a deal is concluded within the next two months. In an ultimatum at a summit in Austria, the Prime Minister insisted that extending the deadlocked talks beyond November was "not an option".

How can you give an ultimatum while begging?

With any luck we will get the long sought after No deal Brexit.

No Brexit at all would be best, but a "No Deal" Brexit will achieve the most educational effect and hasten the date of our re application for Membership of the EU.
And when we get back in we will have to behave as real members, not a pain in the backside.

 

[daveboy]

From the Exress
"
Brexit deal by November! May delivers ULTIMATUM – ‘Extending negotiations isn't an option'
THERESA May on Wednesday night warned EU leaders that she will walk away from the Brexit negotiations unless a deal is concluded within the next two months. In an ultimatum at a summit in Austria, the Prime Minister insisted that extending the deadlocked talks beyond November was "not an option".

How can you give an ultimatum while begging?

With any luck we will get the long sought after No deal Brexit.

No Brexit at all would be best, but a "No Deal" Brexit will achieve the most educational effect and hasten the date of our re application for Membership of the EU.
And when we get back in we will have to behave as real members, not a pain in the backside.

 

[Zlatan]

From the Exress
"
Brexit deal by November! May delivers ULTIMATUM – ‘Extending negotiations isn't an option'
THERESA May on Wednesday night warned EU leaders that she will walk away from the Brexit negotiations unless a deal is concluded within the next two months. In an ultimatum at a summit in Austria, the Prime Minister insisted that extending the deadlocked talks beyond November was "not an option".

How can you give an ultimatum while begging?

With any luck we will get the long sought after No deal Brexit.

No Brexit at all would be best, but a "No Deal" Brexit will achieve the most educational effect and hasten the date of our re application for Membership of the EU.
And when we get back in we will have to behave as real members, not a pain in the backside.

For once showing some resolve .. Its all a show anyway. They have a deal.
There is no way on earth EU will put country in a situation where Corbyn might get power. He is last thing EU wants.

 

[Woosh]

There is no way on earth EU will put country in a situation where Corbyn might get power. He is last thing EU wants.

I would have thought that the EU fears one of the hard brexiters more.
JC wants a soft brexit rather than reversing brexit.
JC does not oppose FOM.

 

[Fingers]

I would have thought that the EU fears one of the hard brexiters more.
JC wants a soft brexit rather than reversing brexit.
JC does not oppose FOM.

He wants to tax big business and re nationalise state infrastructure.

The EU doesn't like that.

 

[flecc]

There is no way on earth EU will put country in a situation where Corbyn might get power. He is last thing EU wants.

Nonsense, the EU has no problem with the left and is broadly left biased anyway. Their problem is with the right, especially the more extreme like our hard Brexit tories.
.

 

[flecc]

He wants to tax big business and re nationalise state infrastructure.

The EU doesn't like that.

Where on earth do you and Zlatan get your strange ideas from? Nationalised state infrastructure is the European norm and over time most of Europe has always had a strongly left political bias. It's only the recent mass immgration that brought a hard right revival, but that's already failing.
.

 

[Zlatan]

He wants to tax big business and re nationalise state infrastructure.

The EU doesn't like that.

Absolutely correct. He is also more of a Euro sceptic than May and (allegedly) has closer sympathy (rightly or wrongly) with Putin. EU want May in power.

 

[Woosh]

He wants to tax big business and re nationalise state infrastructure.

The EU doesn't like that.

the EU is looking for ways of taxing huge US corporations like amazon, google etc. UK after brexit is more likely to offer them a tax haven. That's why the EU wants to lock the UK into the SM or not at all.
JC's idea of re-nationalising public infrastructure is via shares in a public fund, nothing in the functioning treaty of the EU will stop that approach.
On the other hand, BJ's idea for brexit is to make the UK more competitive in tax, JRM would rather not having to pay tax at all.

 

[Zlatan]

Where on earth do you and Zlatan get your strange ideas from? Nationalised state infrastructure is the European norm and over time most of Europe has always had a strongly left political bias. It's only the recent mass immgration that brought a hard right revival, but that's already failing.
.

That's not quite correct Flecc. EU see state owned industry as opposing monopoly and free trade. Yes, EU countries have state owned concerns (German rail?) but would not agree to a return to such after privatisation. EU can have a left bias but still agree with capitalism. Its exactly why Corbyn wants out the EU. He could not introduce his policies under EU guidelines. But ask him, he, s the one wanting out.

 

[Woosh]

by frustrating TM's effort, the EU will make the argument for a second referendum stronger. Hard brexiters know that they are unlikely to win in a second referendum, regardless of which question(s) will be asked. Their only other choice is a general election where parties will fight on their brexit strategy. At the moment, polls favour a soft brexit, ie, Labour's strategy. The conservatives would lose power if they went for a GE now. So hard brexiters can huff and puff, if TM brings back a deal, they are not going to oppose it.

 

[oldgroaner]

That's not quite correct Flecc. EU see state owned industry as opposing monopoly and free trade. Yes, EU countries have state owned concerns (German rail?) but would not agree to a return to such after privatisation. EU can have a left bias but still agree with capitalism. Its exactly why Corbyn wants out the EU. He could not introduce his policies under EU guidelines. But ask him, he, s the one wanting out.

Tripe!
https://www.anothereurope.org/lets-be-clear-nationalisation-is-not-against-eu-law/
"EU law explicitly protects the right of member states to nationalise industries. Art. 345 TFEU states “The Treaties shall in no way prejudice the rules in Member States (MS) governing the system of property ownership.”

 

[flecc]

Its exactly why Corbyn wants out the EU. He could not introduce his policies under EU guidelines.

Not true, Renault have been in and out of full or partial state ownership like a yo-yo ever since WW2, finally privatising in 1996 but still 15% state owned now. Being in the EU throughout didn't stop that.

EADS (Airbus) was over 50% state owned by France, Germany and Spain at one point and Airbus is still 30% state owned by them.
.

 

[Danidl]

If I get the gist of what you are saying...then I think you are implying that our studios will get less work from Netflix?

That’s actually good. They have hoovered up and hired so many sound stages that there is a waiting list for up to two years for others to use. Diversity is good. Netflix makes at least 70% dirge.

Also it might be the fact that Netflix has overstretched itself. The amount of content they are making is ridiculous. They are losing money massively and had a significant dip of new subscribers in the last quarter. Investors are starting to sweat as projections of new subscribers was down a lot. It’s really not a Brexit issue. But heck. Whack it on the list.

It changes nothing anyway.

.. no what I was saying is that the market for currently existing well made British drama and comedies, already made,and which is the staple diet of Netflix will be re catagorised as non EU, and rental revenue which would otherwise be available to the copyright owners in the UK will be reduced. And it is exactly a BREXIt related consequence..
Gripes about Netflix's policies in commissioning films is off topic.

 

[oldgroaner]

He wants to tax big business and re nationalise state infrastructure.

The EU doesn't like that.

Did you make that up all on your own?

 

[Danidl]

For once showing some resolve .. Its all a show anyway. They have a deal.
There is no way on earth EU will put country in a situation where Corbyn might get power. He is last thing EU wants.

.. the EU does not care whether TM, BJ, JM or ZZTOP, is PM of UK.

 

[Woosh]

the problem with the railways and water is not so much of ownership but privatisation has resulted in two hugely fragmented networks without much of a way for government to invest in localities that need urgent remedial work. If you nationalise the railways and water companies through a PLC (call it Infrastructure Funds) where the government would own something like 40% and the rest by the public, tax money can be spent on grants to carry out the work without the government being accused of corruption.