Brexit, for once some facts.
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That will be the same John Cleese a fervent Brexiteer then?
Bodicea was none to pleased with Romans either...
A fantasy novel, comparing with a non-existent Saxon "invasion".Ask Howard Brenton about the Romans in Britain... :
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Also on the beeb a day or two ago they were asking folk on the street for their definitions of Brexit terminology and some were scarily stating that they thought 'No Deal' would mean we would remain within the EU...
I had no idea he was suffering from dementia.
And what a foolish woman as the Romans quickly demonstrated.
All irrelevant, I was posting about the country, not individuals. The country of Britannia and the numerous Britons who co-operated prospered greatly from the Roman occupation.
When they left no-one prospered.
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Actually that opinion has been largely squashed in part due to a new multi billion facility that has discovered new technology in the field of proton lasers. Its a world leader.There was a programme about this just the other day on the BBC. Itscalled King Arthurs Britain. The Truth Unearthed.
Check it out. Fat from being an insular society we were massively into integration. We were also world class traders.
We did just fine funnily enough.
I watched it and I think you've conveniently read far too much into it.
The broken artifacts giving rise to the evidence were largely Roman or from the Roman times, not the Dark Ages. It applied only to a tiny spot in Cornwall and was based on a single wealthy person's dwelling.
The evidence from across the South of Engand was used to show there was no Saxon invasion, only a time of immigration eventually reaching about 8% of the population, but that was spead much later in time. The Saxons, Angles and Jutes didn't trot in as the Romans left, there was a long interval which was as I described. Indeed the program mentioned as much, highlighting the loss of writing.
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We must have watched a different programme because the case studies on the show I watched concentrated on the non Roman aspect of life.
That was the whole point of it....It also encompassed life in Britain from Leeds to Cornwall.
It was a largely upbeat version of a time generally regarded as being a violent era.
But using artifacts that were Roman or imported by Romans and in a single rich person's home. That was too narrow and the artifacts too ill defined to be regarded as definitive for the population at large.
The wider aspects across the country largely concerned the immigrants I mentioned, who arrived from the fourth to the seventh centuries, a very important fact not mentioned in the program.
I posted about the long period in the Dark Ages after the Romans left when there were almost no Saxons, Angles and Jutes present, though the program tried to imply they were there immediately afterwards which is emphatically untrue. Once again, the program mentioned this void in specifying the disappearance of writing.
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I watched it and it seemed to suggest tin was still being mined in Cornwall & Devon after the Romans left - though geologically related Brittany was also a major source of tin on the continent. But Spanish mines were exhausted in late Roman times so Cornish tin could have been profitably exported.
Agreed and no doubt at least some of that export continued, though the program made the point about ships collecting rather than us shipping out, an important point. But that's a local Cornish thing, hardly applying across the country considering the limited scale of such trading by boats of the time.
This was one of the weaknesses of the program, reading so much into a tiny area and for much of the evidence, one very untypical home.
Alice Roberts has now made a series of such programs, always with some controversial aspect, reminding us that these programs are as much about entertainment as information. As with all media, one's critical faculties need to be kept tuned.
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But the Whine was all home grown and we're still at it.Well there was the Wine
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and Parma ham, although I prefer Paleta black pig Portuguese ham.Well there was the Wine
You've done it again haven't you?
This is where the idea came from
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Technology from the LHC's ATLAS experiment to be used in cancer detection and treatment at UK's first high energy proton beam therapy centre
Posted on 08 May 2018
Technology from the ATLAS experiment at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) - where the Higgs Boson was discovered - will be used in hospitals to improve cancer treatments that employ proton beam therapy.
Researchers from the University of Birmingham who designed and built detectors for ATLAS, where protons are smashed together at high speeds, are using their know-how from the LHC to create a new way of helping image and treat cancers.
The LHC is the world’s largest and most powerful particle acellerator. Beams of protons collide at the centre of the ATLAS detector creating new particles from the debris at the collision point..
The message there is clear even surely to a slow on the uptake Brexit supporter, this was achieved in collaboration with colleagues in the EU, and could not be done by us alone.
Talk about believing fairy tales!
And your second point is nonsense too
When the Roman Empire disintegrated in the late AD 400s, overseas markets disappeared, supply and distribution routes became unsafe and trade collapsed. The Mediterranean Sea became a dangerous place for merchants as there were no powers to control the activities of pirates who marauded as far north as the English Channel.
Certainly there was still some trade, but it wasn't organised , controlled or protected by any naval force, just a few brave captains willing to take big risks for high profits.
World class traders? with the sea crawling with pirates, no organised ports, and a breakdown of law and order?
Come on fingers, please don't engage in fantasies.
No wonder you are a Brexit fan.
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It may not have been proton lasers but it wasn't important. Next time I will say 'or something.' Just to please you.
But yes I'm fully aware of the benefits of this tech. They are building the worlds most advanced hospital opposite The Elizabeth Garrett wing of UCH in London. Pass it all the time.
The trade thing wasn't my quote. Watch the programme. You're so angry its hilarious.
Not angry fingers, I'm sad that you really can't grasp what is going on and so desperately want this Brexit dream to come true.
No Zlatan, I didn't come to drain the swamp, just on the chance of having fun with any Alligators that changed by, and seriously you are the last person to accuse others of being angry
Another angry post.No Zlatan, I didn't come to drain the swamp, just on the chance of having fun with any Alligators that changed by, and seriously you are the last person to accuse others of being angry