Was rather thinking of them coming en masse from Romantia..
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Farage got a good write up on Twitter this morning after appearing on the Beeb
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Graham Lithgow Retweeted Nigel Farage
The choice is essentially this: - Listen to the IMF, a 72 year old global organisation whose primary purpose is to safeguard a sustainable economy across the world. - Listen to Nigel Farage, a 54 year old pork scratching who once lost an election to a man dressed as a dolphin.
I don't think there's a problem here!
Another rather amusing tweet
On #R4today Nigel Farage is invited to talk about immigrants, Germaine Greer is welcomed on to belittle victims of sexual violence, and up next Harold Shipman will be giving us his views on how to cut down NHS waiting lists.
I hope TM hasn't read that, too good a suggestion at the end!
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Graham Lithgow Retweeted Nigel Farage
The choice is essentially this: - Listen to the IMF, a 72 year old global organisation whose primary purpose is to safeguard a sustainable economy across the world. - Listen to Nigel Farage, a 54 year old pork scratching who once lost an election to a man dressed as a dolphin.
I don't think there's a problem here!
Another rather amusing tweet
On #R4today Nigel Farage is invited to talk about immigrants, Germaine Greer is welcomed on to belittle victims of sexual violence, and up next Harold Shipman will be giving us his views on how to cut down NHS waiting lists.
I hope TM hasn't read that, too good a suggestion at the end!
Gove won't like this headline!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/we-won-t-let-may-s-successor-unpick-brexit-deal-vows-michel-barnier-j5x77bqpb
We won’t let future PM unpick Brexit deal, vows Michel Barnier
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/we-won-t-let-may-s-successor-unpick-brexit-deal-vows-michel-barnier-j5x77bqpb
We won’t let future PM unpick Brexit deal, vows Michel Barnier
How can he stop us?
Seriously. In what way does he think if we are not happy in 2 or 3 years time we won't change what we want? Thats the whole point of leaving this Mafia like institution.
it's more our side that seeks guarantee from the EU that they will keep their offer of access to the SM.
At least, that's what I read in the press.
I am not aware of that plan to transit the uk wirh bonded containers.. but it is trivial.. The point of having those 40 ft containers in the first place was that they could be sealed by customs and be excise exempt in transit. Even during the cold war days, there were two concession roads out of Berlin,where there was timed movement of people and trucks. Woe betide you if you strayed of the motorway,are were tardy.
I think the issue is how much the EU will concede that technology could be used to facilitate border control for goods.
The BBC showed last week the arrangements for the Estonia/Russia border. Before Estonia joined the EU, there wasn't a border. Now, trains slow down and cross without stopping. Scanners (paid for be the EU) are fitted along the tracks for this but goods are forced to go through those gateways.
The argument about the Irish border has been used as a football. It must be easy enough to require that goods go through automatic checkpoints in case there is no customs union between the UK and the EU.
.. Seriously... ?? . What I am taking from this conversation is that you are recommending and believing that your negotiators should engage in bad faith,with the intention of renaging on any agreements, even before they are signed off.
I don't think Michael Gove meant it like that.
It is normal that treaties can be re-negotiated later by governments with different leaning.
In the brexit context, it helps to keep the future relationship vague at this point in time to help TM getting the deal through.
It is normal that treaties can be re-negotiated later by governments with different leaning.
In the brexit context, it helps to keep the future relationship vague at this point in time to help TM getting the deal through.
Not at all. But things change. Hellfire we could change the agreement for a closer alignment in the future.
Your idea we can do what we like outside the EU is typical brexit propaganda
Ask your self this, would we want to enter into a trade deal that was non binding?
And would anyone else risk making deals with us on that basis?
Once again a promise made that the brexit camp can't keep
We would have to start again and renegotiating the deal and that could take years.
By the way the EU is far less of a Mafia the than our government is
And they were responsible to a large degree with setting the rules the EU operates on!
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it's only because it's still small and new.
it will become a real super power eventually.
People in high office need to be very careful about what they say. The precise words are important.
I believe what he said is wide open to th interpretation that we (UK) can agree anything because we will get rid of the bits we don't like in future, regardless.
I say, anyone making agreements (EU) would be well advised to ensure a clause which says something like "whole agreement or nothing".
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You do realise how that reads rather humorously that our Government is
"Still small and new"
"It will become a real super power eventually"
Obviously traveling back in time has to be seen as possible first!
but we are not negotiating a trade deal yet. We only do the divorce contract at the moment.
By the time that we talk trade for real, demography means that the majority would be remainers and that's even before Brits living in EU27 are allowed to vote.
Police chiefs: no-deal Brexit would mean loss of crime-fighting tools
Senior officers say any planned replacements would be less effective than EU mechanisms
Senior officers say any planned replacements would be less effective than EU mechanisms
I posted a few times on the effect of demography on brexit, remain wins about 500,000 more votes a year due to demography. At present, the margin is around 52/48 for remain. At the end of the transition (December 2020), there should be a clear margin 60/40 to remain if the conservatives cannot get a trade deal better than CETA.
However, if they can get a good deal, they may go on to win the next GE.
BMW is to shut it's Oxford Mini plant for a month from 1st April as we leave the EU. They are very dependent on the free flow of parts to and from the mainland EU, so with no certainty of a deal they are having to plan for the worst just in case.
The time will be used for maintenance, something that usually happens much later in the year.
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The time will be used for maintenance, something that usually happens much later in the year.
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