Brexit, for once some facts.
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Try this one then and let me know - they all work fine on my machines.
Tom
Why am I not surprised? Have I been contaminated by (shock! horror!) antisemitism?
PS page stopped jumping what did you do?
While the worst PM in living memory ignores half the population and chooses to continue with the disaster that 'Brexit' has become, other PMs elsewhere are doing something about improving the lot of their citizens:
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Tom
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the word 'fake news' does not describe accurately what's going on, it's distorted news.
The printed newspapers follow now their online versions, to replace the echo chambers that are their readers' comments section and forums, headlines are written to exaggerate differences and instill hatred.
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I think he has been deselected for the next GE, so the choice for him is to retire to the Lords or continues as an independent.
The fight for control of the Labour party will split it soon enough.
I heard this reported yesterday evening and couldn't get my head around how allowing the majority their say would betray democracy. Of course, such things have been said in many places, here for example, but when it is the PM spouting it...
Depending on exactly what figures are being used, we have over two years of those who were too young to vote in 2016 now being old enough. They shouldn't be ignored. But regardless of which way they wish to vote, they are not intending to vote the SAME. And over two years of those who have died who also cannot vote the SAME.
Worse, you missed the "more than" or "substantially more than". At best it could be of registered voters and we have seen all too many suggestions that those under 18 are less likely brexit followers.
The 'Brexidiots' seem to imagine that closer ties with that other place across the Atlantic that claims we enjoy a 'special relationship' would be of great benefit to the UK in terms of trade, military and strategic interests and global, tax-avoiding, fast food chains, internet providers, coffee shops and giant online marketplace concerns.
Here's a brief reminder of the kind of people the 'Brexidiots' relate to:
Yeah!....we all want to be like them, right?
Tom
Here's a brief reminder of the kind of people the 'Brexidiots' relate to:
Yeah!....we all want to be like them, right?
Tom
For the benefit of those too young to know the identity of the horrid, nasty extremist in the attached photo, it's the late Margaret Thatcher. The other one is Menachem Begin, the Israeli PM who blew up 28 British citizens at the King David hotel in Jerusalem in 1946.
The following year, he ordered the killing of two British Military Intelligence officers. His thugs in the 'Irgun' killed them, hanged their bodies, but not content with that, they booby-trapped them, causing further injury to those taking down the bodies.
The British government continues to support the Jewish terrorist government in Israel, in spite of the fact that they have been committing war crimes against the Palestinian Arabs ever since the formation of the Israeli state.
Our government also supports the most prolific warmonger on Earth, the USA and just to be clear about whom exactly our government chooses to align our nation with, Saudi Arabia is another 'great friend and ally.'
Tom
I usually suffer the page jumping but didn't this time. It's certainly a weird phenomenon.
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Oddly enough your reply caused several jumps before stopping.Cor blimey 'flecc'! That means you have missed some of my finest work.
Tom
I've probably missed a lot, since when the jumping starts I just leave the thread, often leaving it until a new page is started.
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she has a point.
let me be the devil's advocate here.
If you could divide the country into two arbitrary halves: those living in cities, well educated, travelling a lot, living some time abroad even, having good jobs - for them, the vote is a no brainer. The other half will also see the vote as a no brainer too.
As it happened, leavers won. If democracy were perfect, the UK would have left by now. I think 'perfect' is not the right word, 'instantaneous' should be used in this context.
It is to the majority's benefit that democracy is not perfect, so reality sinks in during the last two years, if there is a second referendum, remain will win by a similar margin.
Again, if democracy were instantaneous, the UK would have sought to rejoin.
That scenario would have caused huge damage to the economy, job losses, public services pushed into crises, family uprooted, newcomers forced to go home etc. so it's good in a way that time is bought for people to ponder on their choices. Despite the fact that the Pound lost roughly 10% of its pre-referendum value and subsequent inflation has taken another 10%, opinion has not shifted enough to say that the case for remain is made for at least a generation. It's clear that at least 40% of the voters are willing to foot the bill of brexit, you cannot dismiss them as brexidiots.
It is far better to buy another two years of so called transition period at roughly £20 billion each year where the options of trade outside the EU can be properly explored. If by then, public opinion gives a clear margin 60/40 in favour of remain then a second referendum must be called.
Or, to look at it another way: Why should that 40% be allowed to spend my taxes on something I don't want?
it's not the 40% who decided to spend the money on brexit, it's our government, supported by our parliament.
Until Parliament asks us to vote again, the last vote is the legal result.