Brexit, for once some facts.
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that's just silly.
BJ wants to be like DT, his clumsiness is an act.
TM is nothing like DT.
gimme a couple of minutes, I'll catch up with you lot.
My apologies OG. It is but isn't. We
are both wrong. It's Baghad Bob.
Now, that is an interesting conjecture! We may get to learn the truth before much longer.
Tom
I recall an advert from way back that showed the French humour quite well alas I can't trace a video that has survived, so a verbal will have to do .
Camera zooms in on a French onion seller, bicycle and string of onions, he is holding a pack of Kraft cheese slices and examines one, then turns to address the camera.
"You English! " he says, "You are so clever, you make the cheese square to fit the Bread!"
Then he proudly lifts the string of onions which are all perfectly Cube shaped, taps the side of his nose and winks.
"But we French, we know a thing or two, eh?"
Classic, I do so wish a video record was still available ...anyone else recall the advert?
That was only a previous name given to him, by the Americans, he was never refereed to in that way by the British press you are not going to wriggle out of this one!
Where's Baghad by the way?
Here's an opening for a wannabee investor like you after Brexit
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I posted it in humour, I don't think she sympathises with Johnson's views, or anyone's for that matter. She's just another long term unprincipled expediency politian like nearly all of them.
Principles are too expensive in political life, bringing failure and often ridicule. It's mostly Labour who suffer this, Tony Benn, Michael Foot, Jeremy Corbyn for example, but the odd Tory too.
His principled stand over the third Heathrow runway cost Zac Goldsmith his Conservative parliamentary seat.
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For shame that they never bought the poor man another one, after all they come cheap, and the DUP probably want to offload one or two by now.
Apparently, the person masquerading as the Bitch British Prime Minister has made it known to her inner circle that she would like her aides to devise legislation whereby attacking politicians on social media will be illegal.
Mmm...! I will just leave this here:
Tom
Mmm...! I will just leave this here:
Tom
So did I but if the situation arises where Boris reaches the top job the rest of the vegetables will follow cabbage heads lead, no matter how outlandish it is.
While I strongly disagree with him in some matters, Zac is an essentially a very decent man despite his huge wealth. It was daddy who made the money. Even now when Zac is back as an MP, his position is tenuous with only 45 majority in the election, thanks to sticking to his principles. I don't think many coming out of Eton are like him, more's the pity.
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Some victory.
We retain the border controls we've already got anyway but lose the ability to freely get trade deals elsewhere and have to abide by all EU social rules, which means the ECJ making judgements.
That's called staying an EU member.
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Another Guardian piece:
Revealed: detail of exclusive Russian deal offered to Arron Banks in Brexit run-up
Leaked document lays out for first time deal proposed to Leave.EU backer, sparking new questions over Moscow’s role
The full details of Russia’s gold deal offer to Arron Banks ahead of the EU referendum are revealed in a leaked document which mentions exclusive “opportunities not available to others” and support from a Kremlin bank.
A seven-slide presentation, seen for the first time, shows how Banks – the main donor behind Leave.EU – was offered the chance of making potentially enormous profits in a deal featuring a Russian gold company.
The offer was made through Alexander Yakovenko, Russia’s ambassador in London.
Some MPs have said it raises new questions about Moscow’s role in Brexit, and whether the Kremlin sought to enrich leading Brexit campaigners in the run-up to the 2016 referendum via a series of covert business deals.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/09/revealed-detail-of-exclusive-russian-deal-offered-to-arron-banks-in-brexit-run-up
Revealed: detail of exclusive Russian deal offered to Arron Banks in Brexit run-up
Leaked document lays out for first time deal proposed to Leave.EU backer, sparking new questions over Moscow’s role
The full details of Russia’s gold deal offer to Arron Banks ahead of the EU referendum are revealed in a leaked document which mentions exclusive “opportunities not available to others” and support from a Kremlin bank.
A seven-slide presentation, seen for the first time, shows how Banks – the main donor behind Leave.EU – was offered the chance of making potentially enormous profits in a deal featuring a Russian gold company.
The offer was made through Alexander Yakovenko, Russia’s ambassador in London.
Some MPs have said it raises new questions about Moscow’s role in Brexit, and whether the Kremlin sought to enrich leading Brexit campaigners in the run-up to the 2016 referendum via a series of covert business deals.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/09/revealed-detail-of-exclusive-russian-deal-offered-to-arron-banks-in-brexit-run-up
All together now Tm's songSome victory.
We retain the border controls we've already got anyway but lose the ability to freely get trade deals elsewhere and have to abide by all EU social rules, which means the ECJ making judgements.
That's called staying an EU member.
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Brino, Brino, Brino all day long
Will my Brino turn out right or Wrong?
Boris don't like anything I doo ooo,
Rees Mogg seems to feel the same way too oo oo
Guardian editorial
The Guardian view on the Brexit debate: time to make real choices
Editorial
Sector after sector in the UK economy is facing a dilemma about its future relationship with the EU. The time is nearing to decide what kind of country Britain wishes to be
“This is no longer a theoretical debate. It’s about the future of our nation. False choices and sloganeering must be avoided at all costs.” The words come from the Confederation of British Industry’s new report on immigration after Brexit. But they do not apply to the issue of immigration alone. They apply, with increasing urgency and historic seriousness, to every component aspect of the Brexit process – and to the big picture of Britain’s future relationship with the EU too. On issues that range from fruit-picking to criminal justice and the car industry, and from the value of holiday spending money to the Irish peace process and the viability of our universities, the Brexit debate is no longer about theory and slogans but increasingly about real-world choices and the kind of Britain that we seek to be.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/09/the-guardian-view-on-the-brexit-debate-time-to-make-real-choices
The Guardian view on the Brexit debate: time to make real choices
Editorial
Sector after sector in the UK economy is facing a dilemma about its future relationship with the EU. The time is nearing to decide what kind of country Britain wishes to be
“This is no longer a theoretical debate. It’s about the future of our nation. False choices and sloganeering must be avoided at all costs.” The words come from the Confederation of British Industry’s new report on immigration after Brexit. But they do not apply to the issue of immigration alone. They apply, with increasing urgency and historic seriousness, to every component aspect of the Brexit process – and to the big picture of Britain’s future relationship with the EU too. On issues that range from fruit-picking to criminal justice and the car industry, and from the value of holiday spending money to the Irish peace process and the viability of our universities, the Brexit debate is no longer about theory and slogans but increasingly about real-world choices and the kind of Britain that we seek to be.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/09/the-guardian-view-on-the-brexit-debate-time-to-make-real-choices
I have been trying to find something that supported the "Test the water article over Brino" the Daily Mail has conjured from thin air.
Here is the situation re the EU and Channel Islands
From this link
https://www.channelislands.eu/eu-and-the-channel-islands/
"The formal relationship between the Channel Islands and the EU is enshrined in Protocol 3 of the UK’s 1972 Accession Treaty, and confirmed in what is now Article 355 (5) (c) of the EU Treaties. Under Protocol 3, the Islands are part of the Customs Union and are essentially within the Single Market for the purposes of trade in goods, but are third countries (i.e. outside the EU) in all other respects. However, the Channel Islands have a close relationship with the EU in many different fields, not simply those covered by the formal relationship under Protocol 3. Both Jersey and Guernsey voluntarily implement appropriate EU legislation or apply the international standards on which they are based.
Sadly for them
"When the UK leaves the EU, the current basis for the Channel Islands’ relationship with the EU (Protocol 3 of the UK Accession Treaty) will no longer apply. Essentially this means that, subject to the outcome of UK/EU negotiations on the future relationship, the Islands will no longer be in the single market for trade in goods or the EU Customs Union."
So even if this could be extended to include the UK what about Services?
Here is the situation re the EU and Channel Islands
From this link
https://www.channelislands.eu/eu-and-the-channel-islands/
"The formal relationship between the Channel Islands and the EU is enshrined in Protocol 3 of the UK’s 1972 Accession Treaty, and confirmed in what is now Article 355 (5) (c) of the EU Treaties. Under Protocol 3, the Islands are part of the Customs Union and are essentially within the Single Market for the purposes of trade in goods, but are third countries (i.e. outside the EU) in all other respects. However, the Channel Islands have a close relationship with the EU in many different fields, not simply those covered by the formal relationship under Protocol 3. Both Jersey and Guernsey voluntarily implement appropriate EU legislation or apply the international standards on which they are based.
Sadly for them
"When the UK leaves the EU, the current basis for the Channel Islands’ relationship with the EU (Protocol 3 of the UK Accession Treaty) will no longer apply. Essentially this means that, subject to the outcome of UK/EU negotiations on the future relationship, the Islands will no longer be in the single market for trade in goods or the EU Customs Union."
So even if this could be extended to include the UK what about Services?