Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Mogg defends his own firm investing in Russia while slamming Putin
It has emerged that investment firm Somerset Capital Management, co-founded by the MP, has a total of £217m staked with Russian companies
RUSSIA critic Jacob Rees-Mogg has denied being a hypocrite after it emerged that his company invests in Russian firms with close links to the Kremlin

Several are on a list banned from trading in the US because of their strong relationship with Vladimir Putin.

Predictable.......Do as I say , not as I Do
 

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I was probably one of the first people to discover that IMDb’s message boards were shutting down. Last week I was browsing the forums for 2015’s Straight Outta Compton(“Zootopia is more Oscar worthy” by SpongeBob1945) when I noticed the big, red word “IMPORTANT” had just appeared atop of a thread I had opened.(and wanted to comment on)

“As part of our ongoing effort to continually evaluate and enhance the customer experience on IMDb, we have decided to disable IMDb's message boards on February 20, 2017,” the message read. “After in-depth discussion and examination, we have concluded that IMDb's message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority of our more than 250 million monthly users worldwide.”

A couple of sports forums I used to frequent have also gone (perhaps my fault??) So enjoy your remainers' haven whilst it lasts.
Forum organisers simply can not carry on taking risk of prosecution for people being, well, people I suppose.
 
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oldgroaner

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I was probably one of the first people to discover that IMDb’s message boards were shutting down. Last week I was browsing the forums for 2015’s Straight Outta Compton(“Zootopia is more Oscar worthy” by SpongeBob1945) when I noticed the big, red word “IMPORTANT” had just appeared atop of a thread I had opened.

“As part of our ongoing effort to continually evaluate and enhance the customer experience on IMDb, we have decided to disable IMDb's message boards on February 20, 2017,” the message read. “After in-depth discussion and examination, we have concluded that IMDb's message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority of our more than 250 million monthly users worldwide.”

A couple of the forums I used to frequent have gone (perhaps my fault??) So enjoy your remainers' haven whilst it lasts.
Forums organisers simply can not carry on taking risk of prosecution for people being, well people I suppose.
A victory for the "Thought Police"?
Another sign of decadence.
Apparently those in power imagine this will stifle opposition of any sort.
After all they spend considerable sums of our money on Propaganda, don't they?
Open Debate is a relatively safe and of course traceable outlet for Public Feelings.
After all
the 50% Remain voters are virtually not represented in this present scenario are they?
This is wrong.
 
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Mogg defends his own firm investing in Russia while slamming Putin
It has emerged that investment firm Somerset Capital Management, co-founded by the MP, has a total of £217m staked with Russian companies
RUSSIA critic Jacob Rees-Mogg has denied being a hypocrite after it emerged that his company invests in Russian firms with close links to the Kremlin

Several are on a list banned from trading in the US because of their strong relationship with Vladimir Putin.

Predictable.......Do as I say , not as I Do
I honestly cannot see JRM as future leader. Anyone (beside the current POTUS) saying we won't pay until we get our way is not going to command much respect.
I see Michael Gove is the only credible representative for the brexiters that can challenge TM at the moment. He may be a weasel but not a hard brexiter if he gets the job.
 
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oldgroaner

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I honestly cannot see JRM as future leader. Anyone (beside the current POTUS) saying we won't pay until we get our way is not going to command much respect.
I see Michael Gove is the only credible representative for the brexiters that can challenge TM at the moment. He may be a weasel but not a hard brexiter if he gets the job.
A joke at this point along the lines of " A Confucius Saying"
"It is better to be a Weasel than an Eagle
For weasels may not be able to soar like an Eagle,
But then again they never get sucked into Jet Engines"
 

oldtom

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Predictable.......Do as I say , not as I Do
Yes, he is a leading member of the party of liars and cheats and that has been proved as follows:

Here is the proof that Jacob Rees Mogg took £176,000 from Somerset Capital Management LLP "You assume I make money from these investments, I don't" he said on @MarrShow today. To knowingly lie and then blatantly mislead like this, shows shameful public contempt. This has to be Misconduct in Public Office "wilful neglect of a public duty" Come on CPS we need protection from these Brexit elitist liars who are planning to exploit our country and violate working people for generations to come.

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oldtom

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I love this view of the recent wedding nonsense:

THE ROYAL FAMILY IS ELITIST EXTREMISM; THE ROYAL WEDDING WAS A CON

Woolly untrustworthy liberals, centrists and cod-left observers have spent the day uttering such fraudulent concoctions as

I’m not a royalist but Meghan Markle has a nice dress on.”

I’m not a royalist but the choir sounded great.”

I’m not a royalist but Bishop Curry preached a good sermon.”

I’m not a royalist but there’s David Beckham.”

I’m not a royalist but that was moving.”

Most of these comments have been uttered by white middle-class voices with privileged positions of influence in the media.

It was a royal wedding. The sole purpose of this public spectacle was to promote the royal family. The wedding existed to enhance the popularity of an entity whose role is part distraction and part a reminder of everyone’s place in society.

Every aspect of the wedding was chosen carefully by marketing and PR teams. It was another attempt to reconstruct the royal family’s false image and to pretend that they are something other than defenders of elitist exploitation.

Prince Harry is an immature prat who thought dressing as a NAZI officer was funny, who described machine-gunning Afghanis from his helicopter as “like a computer game” and who celebrates that working-class kids are forced to risk life and limb in the British army as the only hope of a career. Meghan Markle is an actress in TV soaps. They are dull and lack any original thoughts. It is all an act. He has been taught how to act since he was born and she is a professional actress. Their combined role now as actors is to con the public into thinking that they are different from the rest of the royal gloop.

New features of the royal con were appended at the wedding and hapless, dishonest observers fell easily for it; far too easily.

A gun with a peace sign on it is still a gun, a fist about to smash into your face is still a fist about to smash into your face even if the letters of the word ‘love’ are spelled out on the knuckles, and extreme elitism is still extreme elitism even if the extreme elitism hired a preacher who preached about liberal values. The royal wedding, and its endless preamble, was a carefully constructed scam.

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Spineless liberals, who appear to have fallen so easily for another rendition of the royal scam, are doing so willingly. Any pretence of opposition that they had to elitist exploitation magically evaporated at the sight of a pretty dress and at the sound of an entertaining preacher. Their true intent revealed itself. Whenever any of these fraudsters, henceforth, choose to pretend to object to NHS cuts or welfare cuts or the lack of affordable housing or education cuts or deportations of Windrush generation, then those false objections should be shoved right up their royal-loving arseholes.

Works for me!

Tom
 
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For weasels may not be able to soar like an Eagle,
But then again they never get sucked into Jet Engines
Gove has not got sucked in by making promises before or after the vote. He did not say stupid things like 'brexit is brexit' either.
 
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oldgroaner

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Be specific, prove your case. Generalising because you don't like brexit being criticized isn't enough
And you make veiled threats to hide your own views, when unable to provide a cogent argument to support them.

QUOTE="tommie, post: 439884, member: 9741"]If you create a forum that is open to the public you as owner have certain responsibilities that come under law.

This forum thread is sailing seriously close to the wind.[/QUOTE]

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Gove has not got sucked in by making promises before or after the vote. He did not say stupid things like 'brexit is brexit' either.
Michael Gove's big disadvantage is his image. It's a sad fact that appearance counts, as unfair as that is, and he has an unfortunately owlish look. He doesn't fit well into the possible images of prime minister and international leader that most have.
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oldgroaner

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Michael Gove's big disadvantage is his image. It's a sad fact that appearance counts, as unfair as that is, and he has an unfortunately owlish look. He doesn't fit well into the possible images of prime minister and international leader that most have.
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Plus of course he has an remarkable talent for changing allegiances without prior notice at improbably well timed moments.

A propensity that even Boris aspires to! :D
Perhaps Mrs Gove could be approached and asked to cut out the Middle Man?
 

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If you create a forum that is open to the public you as owner have certain responsibilities that come under law.

This forum thread is sailing seriously close to the wind.
Certainly under the new data protection legislation that first comment is true.
Whether the second is needs further clarification
 
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Boris Johnson 'hobbled by lack of Foreign Office power'
Committee chair says trade, intelligence and development must return to FCO control

<blah blah>

There is also frustration in the Foreign Office that Johnson’s preoccupation with the Tory leadership means he spends more time positioning himself in relation to Theresa May, and Brexit, instead of developing a coherent stance towards Europe, China and Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/28/boris-johnson-hobbled-by-lack-of-foreign-office-power
 

oldgroaner

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Boris Johnson 'hobbled by lack of Foreign Office power'
Committee chair says trade, intelligence and development must return to FCO control

<blah blah>

There is also frustration in the Foreign Office that Johnson’s preoccupation with the Tory leadership means he spends more time positioning himself in relation to Theresa May, and Brexit, instead of developing a coherent stance towards Europe, China and Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/28/boris-johnson-hobbled-by-lack-of-foreign-office-power
At least someone had the foresight to keep Boris away from doing even more damage by giving him any power, as in "keep matches out of the reach and sight of Children"
 

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