Brexit, for once some facts.
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Can we backdate that about 50 years?Ah yes, that was it......I have trouble keeping up these days - we need to get rid of Thatcher; she has to go!
Tom
Strong and stable that's us!
We'll be alright once we get used to novelty of it all and settle down.
You know, that's quotable!
Cunning plan there flecc!
To make it even more confusing the last lot were Chinese.
I suppose they could do "Madame Butterfly?"
.This in the Independent
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Facebook suspends Canadian political consultancy AggregateIQ amid Cambridge Analytica and Brexit claims
Move follows claims the firm was linked to Cambridge Analytica and alleged 'cheating' in the EU referendum
This is interesting in that we have no way of knowing whether similar manipulation is or isn't occuring right now, do we?
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Facebook suspends Canadian political consultancy AggregateIQ amid Cambridge Analytica and Brexit claims
Move follows claims the firm was linked to Cambridge Analytica and alleged 'cheating' in the EU referendum
This is interesting in that we have no way of knowing whether similar manipulation is or isn't occuring right now, do we?
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Remain has certainly been better orchestrated.
Or for which side?
Remain has certainly been better orchestrated.
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Exactly!
More here
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-21/inside-the-facebook-team-helping-regimes-that-reach-out-and-crack-down
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Well we are the Big Society, according to a former PM.We're just looking at "The Big Picture"
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A did you hear what Paxman said about him on Room 101? (It was repeated yesterday or day before.) Worst since Lord North.
From the Telegraph
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Amber Rudd says cuts not to blame for rise in violence as new powers and task force unveiled
But they haven't exactly helped, have they?
And the "Fake News of the Day Award" goes to this woman
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Russia has restarted the Cold War – but this time as an outlaw state fighting only to assert its own power
Janet Daley
No actually TM has done that
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Amber Rudd says cuts not to blame for rise in violence as new powers and task force unveiled
But they haven't exactly helped, have they?
And the "Fake News of the Day Award" goes to this woman
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Russia has restarted the Cold War – but this time as an outlaw state fighting only to assert its own power
Janet Daley
No actually TM has done that
The Express has it thinks got a scoop
REVEALED: The bombshell Russian message intercepted on DAY of Skripal poisonings
INTERNATIONAL backing for Britain against Russia over the Sergei Skripal poisoning remains firm and resolute, senior foreign diplomats said last night.
On the day of the poisonings, March 4, one was sent from a location near Damascus in Syria to “an official” in Moscow including the phrase ‘the package has been delivered” and saying that two individuals had “made a successful egress”.
An electronic message to Moscow sent on the day former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were poisoned with a nerve agent in Salisbury included the phrase “the package has been delivered”.
It also said two named individuals had made a successful departure.
This and an earlier intercept form a key part of Britain’s intelligence evidence against Russia over the Skripal poisonings, sources said last night.
Insiders said the two messages were intercepted by RAF analysts stationed at a listening post in southern Cyprus.
On the day of the poisonings, March 4, one was sent from a location near Damascus in Syria to “an official” in Moscow including the phrase ‘the package has been delivered” and saying that two individuals had “made a successful egress”.
So a message was sent from Syria...........From Whom in Syria?
It deals with a Package that was Delivered.......... Containing who knows what.
Two individuals made a successful egress.........From where?
So we have a story that could be some official was involved in Smuggling.
Now let's look at the implications
Why haven't they been traced and named if they came here?
Why would the broadcast have been sent? an intentional planted clue?
Here's what I would have sent if I was them
Had a successful trip, and on the way home.
Why elaborate beyond that?
And the message seems to prove someone in Syria did "the job"
If anything the finger points at either Assad (unlikely)
Assad's enemies (Hmm now who would they be?)
or the Russian Mafia (possibly)
What a pathetic propaganda exercise, if we can't do a better job of blaming Putin personally we should give up.
REVEALED: The bombshell Russian message intercepted on DAY of Skripal poisonings
INTERNATIONAL backing for Britain against Russia over the Sergei Skripal poisoning remains firm and resolute, senior foreign diplomats said last night.
On the day of the poisonings, March 4, one was sent from a location near Damascus in Syria to “an official” in Moscow including the phrase ‘the package has been delivered” and saying that two individuals had “made a successful egress”.
An electronic message to Moscow sent on the day former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were poisoned with a nerve agent in Salisbury included the phrase “the package has been delivered”.
It also said two named individuals had made a successful departure.
This and an earlier intercept form a key part of Britain’s intelligence evidence against Russia over the Skripal poisonings, sources said last night.
Insiders said the two messages were intercepted by RAF analysts stationed at a listening post in southern Cyprus.
On the day of the poisonings, March 4, one was sent from a location near Damascus in Syria to “an official” in Moscow including the phrase ‘the package has been delivered” and saying that two individuals had “made a successful egress”.
So a message was sent from Syria...........From Whom in Syria?
It deals with a Package that was Delivered.......... Containing who knows what.
Two individuals made a successful egress.........From where?
So we have a story that could be some official was involved in Smuggling.
Now let's look at the implications
Why haven't they been traced and named if they came here?
Why would the broadcast have been sent? an intentional planted clue?
Here's what I would have sent if I was them
Had a successful trip, and on the way home.
Why elaborate beyond that?
And the message seems to prove someone in Syria did "the job"
If anything the finger points at either Assad (unlikely)
Assad's enemies (Hmm now who would they be?)
or the Russian Mafia (possibly)
What a pathetic propaganda exercise, if we can't do a better job of blaming Putin personally we should give up.
This nonesense beggars belief. Do they seriously believe that a person who considers buying acid to pour over another person with the intent to disfigur, maim or kill will think, “I’d better not buy that acid, I’m under 18 and I will get into trouble?”
We already have plenty of knife related offences for which people can be prosecuted, why is this fool of a Home Secretary inventing even more? Does anyone remember the Tory policy of a minimum of 5 years in gaol for carrying a knife? This was circa 1994. What happened to that? More pi$$ & wind. A big part of the problem is that Theresa May has cut policing budgets and no amount of new laws will repair that damage. The problem is further compounded by the government and police chiefs being obsessed with investigating geriatric disk jockeys and ploughing scarce resources into that.
Has anyone noticed that since the daughter of the poisoned Russian spy “phoned home”, the pair have been rapidly improving? Now there is whisperings of safe houses, new identities and 24 hour protection.
Are the government trying to hide this pair from the public? I wonder what the two “victims” think about all this?
Are the government trying to hide this pair from the public? I wonder what the two “victims” think about all this?
they should thank their lucky star to be protected and helped by our government. What's not to like?
I’m not sure I would like being used as a weapon to stir up hostility against Russia. Especially so when the government is throwing around accusations which appear to have no foundation in fact or evidence. There is quite a bit not to like about being caught up in the middle of all that.
That the protection afforded them so far did not (it appears) prevent something very unpleasant happening to them.
And relatives, since they refused a visa for Yulia's cousin Viktoria to visit.
The authorities are obviously desperate to hide the truth and manage the news to fit their agenda. The more they do this, the more it looks like we are hiding guilt.
Far from being thankful as Woosh suggested, I think they should be very fearful of the false identities and concealed new location suggestion. What a convenient way that would be to bury the evidence, by spiriting them away, killing them and disposing of the bodies by cremation without anything looking suspicious to the outside world.
All the while refusing access or evidence to the Russian authorities.
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