Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Good point about the women forced into sexual slavery right on the doorstep of the EUHQ . The ability of the slave traffickers to move what they like when they like, gifted to them by the EU, must be very helpful and allow them to grow their slavery businesses .
Funny but tht seems to be a big problem here too, are you going to blame the EU for that as well?
Might was well it makes the same sort of sense
Nonsense that is.
After Zero Hours contracts become universal after Brexit and the attacks that follow on workers rights sre completed it will be hard to say where Slavery starts and ends in this country.
Will you still blame the EU for that too?
 
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oldgroaner

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Sounds like I,m a bit obsessed with the girls ??!! Wife was a social worker in Rotherham for a while and is still giving evidence.( evidence ignored 10 years ago)...but the stories in Dutch newspapers about the girls' predicaments sounds so similar to those in Rotherham. Amazing thing is here its all on show,almost an attraction, you can even take guided tours of area and chaps giving oratory actually tell visitors protocols of a visit and fact many girls are there against their wishes.( there are a few prosecutions going through courts now) Common strand is girls are coerced there with all sorts of promises ( work, wealth, passports etc ) Then kept here with threats against families.
In broad daylight , in full view of authorities and as mentioned at the heart of EU justice.
What a stupid world we live in.
Zlatan AKA Inspector Cluseau strikes again... with another gratutitous assault on the EU
Bon't bother, we are leaving, who cares what they do now? you have made it none of our business.
 
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oldgroaner

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They had to reveal that once the Russians let out that his daughter in her phone call to Russia had revealed her father was doing well. That rather destroyed the government story that he was still seriously ill.
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Not to mention the reputation of the Toxicity of Novichok!
Well at least if Boris is right Putin will be disappointed about that.
Assuming of course that what has been said is true

"Tell me your truth
And I'll tell you mine
Aneurin Bevan

This is not the State of Great Britain,
It's the State of Insanity
 
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tillson

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Funny but tht seems to be a big problem here too, are you going to blame the EU for that as well?
Might was well it makes the same sort of sense
Well yes, I think I am. The free movement of people makes it easier for slave traders to move their slaves. The free movement of people is an EU instrument. The number of sex slaves across Europe, including the U.K. has increased since we had free movement of people.

I’m afraid that on this charge, the EU are as guilty as a puppy set next to a pile of poop. (Credit to Black Adder for that one).
 

oldgroaner

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Well yes, I think I am. The free movement of people makes it easier for slave traders to move their slaves. The free movement of people is an EU instrument. The number of sex slaves across Europe, including the U.K. has increased since we had free movement of people.

I’m afraid that on this charge, the EU are as guilty as a puppy set next to a pile of poop. (Credit to Black Adder for that one).
Doesn't quite work,does it,many are refugees completely outside of that area and system.
Gangs of slaves here have even been Chinese!
remember the Cockle Pickers?
And your logic is inferior since most of the people fleeing are being enslaved by our own citizens, after fleeing virtual slavery at home.
Too simplistic
And in the meantime our own population can no longer expect a normal life under a progressively harsher work security /hours/benefits/holidays/welfare regime.
The EU has outlived it's usefulness as an excuse and whipping boy, look closer to home.
 
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They had to reveal that once the Russians let out that his daughter in her phone call to Russia had revealed her father was doing well. That rather destroyed the government story that he was still seriously ill.
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that is just a demonstration of how good our scientists at Porton Down are.
They have the right antidote for Russians' Novichok.
 
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that is just a demonstration of how good our scientists at Porton Down are.
They have the right antidote for Russians' Novichok.
I have serious doubts, given that Novichok is a name for a range of toxic compounds. The treatment was almost certainly continuous monitoring and adjustment of blood chemistry which is the usual treatment for toxin contamination where there's limited knowledge and no antidote is known.

Coupled with rest and a large fluid intake it's often successful against the most deadly of toxins, but does take days to cleanse the system.
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tillson

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And in the meantime our own population can no longer expect a normal life under a progressively harsher work security /hours/benefits/holidays/welfare regime.
The EU has outlived it's usefulness as an excuse and whipping boy, look closer to home.
Being in the EU offers no protection against any of that, as the French are now discovering under the labour reforms proposed by President Macron. In or out, it matters not at all to anything that you have written, the consequences are the same.

I can just imagine if Jacob Rees Mogg had proposed similar labour reforms to Macron. I truly believe that you would have laid an egg! But somehow because France is in the EU and at the moment, not proposing to leave, it’s hardly worth mentioning.
 
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Zlatan

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it's called 'free enterprise' also known as 'market economy'.
Yes undoubtedly correct but perhaps we shouldn't include the trafficking of girls in with it.
Or drugs for that matter but this site does have an amazingly tolerant view of drug use and distribution. But then again it seems many cyclists do.
 

oldgroaner

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They had to reveal that once the Russians let out that his daughter in her phone call to Russia had revealed her father was doing well. That rather destroyed the government story that he was still seriously ill.
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It appears that We have killed off one of their two cats and destroyed it and the Guinea Pigs,
Without apparently checking them for contamination ,but the other cat as gone AWOL
The Public are warned not to approach this animal that has been Contaminated with Deadly Novichoch (Ten times more Toxic than Sarin) and has been living out of dustbins or local cat owners giving it food for a month.
Police are watching Airports, Docks and Railway Stations for a Cat attempting to escape back home to Russia,

I ponder this mystery
What chance have 500 Police and Government experts have of pinning the Blame for this phoney attack on Putin if after a month they can't find a Cat????

Perhaps if they had put out food for the other one instead of letting the poor thing starve to death it just might have come home?
 
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oldgroaner

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Or drugs for that matter but this site does have an amazingly tolerant view of drug use and distribution. But then again it seems many cyclists do.
Now where did that come from? are you having one of your turns?
Let's see some proof before you make such an accusation.
I haven't seen anything of the sort on here on this thread at least
 
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oldgroaner

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Being in the EU offers no protection against any of that, as the French are now discovering under the labour reforms proposed by President Macron. In or out, it matters not at all to anything that you have written, the consequences are the same.

I can just imagine if Jacob Rees Mogg had proposed similar labour reforms to Macron. I truly believe that you would have laid an egg! But somehow because France is in the EU and at the moment, not proposing to leave, it’s hardly worth mentioning.
I have already mentioned it twice, but you are right in one sense
What happens in the EU is no longer our business
 
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oldgroaner

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It highlights how hypocritical and ineffective EU is.
BTW when where you appointed OT policeman. Poacher turned gamekeeper always a good strategy..
I responded to this from you
"Or drugs for that matter but this site does have an amazingly tolerant view of drug use and distribution. But then again it seems many cyclists do."

point out where the letters EU appear, and the rest of your comment is equally off topic concerning my response.

As I said why did you bring it up on this thread?
Being on topic shouldn't require anyone to Police you, you should have the good sense to do it yourself.
Quite simply if you are on topic it is accidental, you simply come on here to try to disrupt the topic.
 
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tillson

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Police are watching Airports, Docks and Railway Stations for a Cat attempting to escape back home to Russia.
They need to deploy Derbyshire Constabulary. After 63 years, they have detected that Derbyshire Constabulary Male Voice Choir has no women members. The Chief Constable has disassociated the Constabulary from the choir. Now that’s the sort of action we want from our police. Non of this unearthing facts via investigation nonsense.
 
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