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Brexit, for once some facts.
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I'm not a massive Fan of him either,but agree with you completely in this instance.
This has been bungled "Bigly" as the Trump might say.
Well, nobody will be able to afford to travel so we have to look on that as one of the Benefits of Brexit.
That is fair comment about the immediate evidence but there may well be more.. The additions to this might be . .. you, were previously charged with gbh but evaded prosecution, you said that you hated the entire Kith and kin and we now find that a statistically unlikely number have had accidents. We know you are violent. We know that a substantial number of your opponents have met nasty ends. We know you lied about little green men , we know you are careless about your high altitude ground to air missiles, and allow your friends to joyride with them...
What in fairness, we do not know is what levels of faction fighting might actually be taking place in Russian circles . Is Putin a strong man or a strawman for other interests
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43412702
"He (Boris) told the BBC a sample of the nerve agent would be sent to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons - the independent international body set up to stop chemical warfare - for analysis."
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/organisation-for-the-prohibition-of-chemical-weapons-87th-executive-council-session-statement-on-the-salisbury-incident
Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons 87th Executive Council session: statement on the Salisbury incident
"On 8 March, the United Kingdom Delegation informed the OPCW Technical Secretariat that 2 people, Sergey and Yulia Skripal, had been taken seriously ill on 4 March in the city of Salisbury following exposure to a nerve agent."
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/organisation-for-the-prohibition-of-chemical-weapons-87th-executive-council-session-14-march-update-on-the-use-of-nerve-agent-in-salisbury-uk
Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons 87th Executive Council session: 14 March update on the use of nerve agent in Salisbury, UK
"...we are working with the police to enable the OPCW to independently verify our analysis."
"He (Boris) told the BBC a sample of the nerve agent would be sent to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons - the independent international body set up to stop chemical warfare - for analysis."
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/organisation-for-the-prohibition-of-chemical-weapons-87th-executive-council-session-statement-on-the-salisbury-incident
Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons 87th Executive Council session: statement on the Salisbury incident
"On 8 March, the United Kingdom Delegation informed the OPCW Technical Secretariat that 2 people, Sergey and Yulia Skripal, had been taken seriously ill on 4 March in the city of Salisbury following exposure to a nerve agent."
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/organisation-for-the-prohibition-of-chemical-weapons-87th-executive-council-session-14-march-update-on-the-use-of-nerve-agent-in-salisbury-uk
Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons 87th Executive Council session: 14 March update on the use of nerve agent in Salisbury, UK
"...we are working with the police to enable the OPCW to independently verify our analysis."
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In one week the Government have made the classic all time error of engaging in Hostilies on TWO fronts on the word of a woman with questionable motives.
What new and novel fundamental errors of judgement is she capable of?
First we have upset the source of our trading wealth,the EU with an intransigent attitude.
Now she has poked the man in the eye who can cut off the very heat in our homes if she carries on with these allegations without going through proper protocol.
Poor man, he must be in danger of a hernia laughing at the "Mouse that Roared!"
What can she do for an Encore?
Threaten him with what exactly?
And the Press round on the only voice or reason being raised in Parliament?
In the words of a countryman of mine.
What new and novel fundamental errors of judgement is she capable of?
First we have upset the source of our trading wealth,the EU with an intransigent attitude.
Now she has poked the man in the eye who can cut off the very heat in our homes if she carries on with these allegations without going through proper protocol.
Poor man, he must be in danger of a hernia laughing at the "Mouse that Roared!"
What can she do for an Encore?
Threaten him with what exactly?
And the Press round on the only voice or reason being raised in Parliament?
In the words of a countryman of mine.
Which no doubt excuses our drone attacks against the Geneva Convention, when we are not actually at war,and being the world's second biggest Gun Runners to Dodgy Regimes.?
Fascinating.
Really ? supportive of the argument that this matter has been a "Kangaroo Court" without any real evidence? guilty as charged,but not of claiming that the Government were complicit, no, in fact I took the entirely opposite stance.
And i have already proved that
AnotherKiwi is an EU citizen, this isn't his Government remember?
He can say whatever he likes in jest, which this clearly was, after all it's open season on Putin and Russia, isn't it?
Not to the poor devils on the receiving end of our "largesse."
We have no objection to our weapons of war being used as the buyer sees fit, do we?
From the Sun
"
FANTASY POLITICS'
Theresa May accused of punishing Russia too SOON by France who demand more evidence
France wants more evidence of Russian involvement in the poisoning of ex-spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia
But Macron's right-hand man, Benjamin Griveaux told a press conference: "We don't do fantasy politics.
"Once the elements are proven then the time will come for decisions to be made."
The readers comments are a revelation,as most of them are actually NOT going along with the official line
Baldur Dasche 28 minutes ago
The French are proving to be a lot brighter than the rest of NATO lock-stepping their way to another 'showdown' with Russia. Any number of 'players' could have organized whatever happened. We're still guessing, even about the substance involved. How about we ask the victims, or are they still 'comatose' or 'moribund'? 'Seriously ill' should be still able to communicate.
"
mucksticks 3 hours ago
One commentor posted an interesting theory a few days ago. If you look at the map of the area surrounding Salisbury, you obviously have the area where the supposed 'attack' occured supposedly. Then you have the location of Porton Down, where all things go on. Then not far from there is the location where the white van was found, again contaminated but nowhere near the spot where the couple were found.
What if there was a small leak, and these three people were the only ones contaminated, and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, as was the van if it was there at all, that is if it had moved? There is also the weather conditions to take into consideration, does the item that was leaked break down after a certain time, is it affected by rain, why was only the police officer seriously affected when there were clearly other people in close proximity caring for the couple that were only mildly affected, was the dosage breaking down to its minimum effect then. Could all of the removal of items, troops brought in etc etc be just a ruse to divert our attention away from where the leak originated. What actually happened at Porton Down that day? Who would be the logical suspects to throw accusations at, remember they have been accused of illegal cyber activities, and this could be the opportune way to get back at them.
Gives you something to consider.
Paul Irving 3 hours ago
Come on, engage brain and consider exactly why Russia would choose to bump him off here,,,now, when he was incarcerated in Russia, where they could have done whatever they wanted WITHOUT the outside world even getting to hear about it.
It Is NOT anti Semitic to suggest that Israel (a country with a history of assassinations on foreign soil) have much to be gained by having Russia implicated.
Night001 12 hours ago
As much as id love to see russia hit with more sanctions something is not right, Why would putin risk the wrath of nations to murder a retired spy with a chemical that only russia has produced, there are thousands of ways to kill a man more discreetly, Its like an assasin leaving his photo on the victim when lets face it there are millions of people not just in russia who would have just walked up to the guy and shot him for nothing never to be seen again ?
And there are many more like that.
This is going badly wrong
"
FANTASY POLITICS'
Theresa May accused of punishing Russia too SOON by France who demand more evidence
France wants more evidence of Russian involvement in the poisoning of ex-spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia
But Macron's right-hand man, Benjamin Griveaux told a press conference: "We don't do fantasy politics.
"Once the elements are proven then the time will come for decisions to be made."
The readers comments are a revelation,as most of them are actually NOT going along with the official line
Baldur Dasche 28 minutes ago
The French are proving to be a lot brighter than the rest of NATO lock-stepping their way to another 'showdown' with Russia. Any number of 'players' could have organized whatever happened. We're still guessing, even about the substance involved. How about we ask the victims, or are they still 'comatose' or 'moribund'? 'Seriously ill' should be still able to communicate.
"
mucksticks 3 hours ago
One commentor posted an interesting theory a few days ago. If you look at the map of the area surrounding Salisbury, you obviously have the area where the supposed 'attack' occured supposedly. Then you have the location of Porton Down, where all things go on. Then not far from there is the location where the white van was found, again contaminated but nowhere near the spot where the couple were found.
What if there was a small leak, and these three people were the only ones contaminated, and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, as was the van if it was there at all, that is if it had moved? There is also the weather conditions to take into consideration, does the item that was leaked break down after a certain time, is it affected by rain, why was only the police officer seriously affected when there were clearly other people in close proximity caring for the couple that were only mildly affected, was the dosage breaking down to its minimum effect then. Could all of the removal of items, troops brought in etc etc be just a ruse to divert our attention away from where the leak originated. What actually happened at Porton Down that day? Who would be the logical suspects to throw accusations at, remember they have been accused of illegal cyber activities, and this could be the opportune way to get back at them.
Gives you something to consider.
Paul Irving 3 hours ago
Come on, engage brain and consider exactly why Russia would choose to bump him off here,,,now, when he was incarcerated in Russia, where they could have done whatever they wanted WITHOUT the outside world even getting to hear about it.
It Is NOT anti Semitic to suggest that Israel (a country with a history of assassinations on foreign soil) have much to be gained by having Russia implicated.
Night001 12 hours ago
As much as id love to see russia hit with more sanctions something is not right, Why would putin risk the wrath of nations to murder a retired spy with a chemical that only russia has produced, there are thousands of ways to kill a man more discreetly, Its like an assasin leaving his photo on the victim when lets face it there are millions of people not just in russia who would have just walked up to the guy and shot him for nothing never to be seen again ?
And there are many more like that.
This is going badly wrong
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T
Yes, to take action we need proof or a high level of security but that ( taking action) is beyond my remit.
Seems Makron along with our nearest allies are saying they believe it to be Putin and even Corbyn is now saying all the evidence does point to Putin..
Dangerous times..
I dont think we will ever get irrefutable proof of the actual identity of who carried poisoning out, even with it some would still argue against anything May ( or our Government) did. There will always be conspiracy theorists...
Russia will never admit guilt.
That's all absolutely true but it does not stop people being able to express opinions ( and without being called stupid by OG). I think Putin is responsible either directly ( ie under his instructions) or indirectly through poor security of the Russian nerve agent.
Yes, to take action we need proof or a high level of security but that ( taking action) is beyond my remit.
Seems Makron along with our nearest allies are saying they believe it to be Putin and even Corbyn is now saying all the evidence does point to Putin..
Dangerous times..
I dont think we will ever get irrefutable proof of the actual identity of who carried poisoning out, even with it some would still argue against anything May ( or our Government) did. There will always be conspiracy theorists...
Russia will never admit guilt.
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Will it work for whom? I can't imagine for a moment that the EU will allow that to happen.
Tom
It was nothing to do with bumping him off. He was just victim. It was a geo political act. The place , method and timing all important. The person not so. Putin thrives and gains support standing upto the west he demonises. Its a warning to his likely political opponents. He relies on our reaction and inability to prove its him. He is even steering us ( via labour) to get us to expel the Oligarchs, taking with them billions. He has wanted then back for years.
Elections are coming up really soon for,Putin, his popularity has risen. He has driven a wedge, fortunately not that deep, between us and some of our allies. The nerve agent was developed and produced in Russia..
Yes, right, it might not be Putin. Perhaps Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy and Twin Towers was CIA.
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