Brexit, for once some facts.

tillson

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I enjoy Lambasting the "I voted Leave" and "leave means leave" sites on Facebook since a friend posts up their garbage.
Questions are simply ignored as no one on there is interested in having their delusions questioned, it has become with them a mania.
You need to ask yourself one simple question:

Does Brexit offer the UK a bright future filled with goodness and prosperity, or are we being led by a bunch of wanchors who have no foresight and who make up Pro-Brexit sound-bites on the hoof?

The evidence should be abundantly clear. Now, can we put Brexit to bed, draw one of those lines underneath it and sit back and wait for the goodness and prosperity to arrive?
 
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SHAN

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The evidence should be abundantly clear. Now, can we put Brexit to bed, draw one of those lines underneath it and sit back and wait for the goodness and prosperity to arrive?
One small change and we're there. The current cabinet is too intelligent, just look at the American stock market, that's all that matters. Just ignore the frightening similarities to 1930's Europe and we'll be OK.
 
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oldtom

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David Davis prepared a list recently as he was fed up with criticism that he was unprepared for the talks in Brussels. Apparently, his team worked tirelessly at their research before producing this for him:

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To be fair to the hardworking civil servants charged with producing the goods for Davis, they have been massively short-handed right from the off. Indeed, the situation going forward may well deteriorate further as this news suggests:

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David Davis is running an "utterly disorganised" department. 143 key roles are unfilled and staff are leaving at an alarming rate. Nearly 1/2 plan to leave in 2018!!

In the case of dumbs hit Dave, he seems to be starting to show some progress in the growing-up stakes as can be seen from this pic, he is now able to tie his own laces:

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Tom
 
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anotherkiwi

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After months and many thousands of pounds spent on research boffins in white coats have decided that passports should in fact be blue. I know you are all getting a warm buzz from this except those who have Irish passports and they are green with envy. A petition is probably being set up at this very moment so that the Irish passport is changed to blue too... :rolleyes:
 
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flecc

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After months and many thousands of pounds spent on research boffins in white coats have decided that passports should in fact be blue. I know you are all getting a warm buzz from this except those who have Irish passports and they are green with envy. A petition is probably being set up at this very moment so that the Irish passport is changed to blue too... :rolleyes:
It's a matter of national suitability. The red or green light seen reflecting from passports using those colours is very focussed and precisely defined.

Blue light on the other hand randomly scatters in an unpredictable manner, is ill focussed and has poorly defined boundaries. Clearly blue is the ideal colour for matching the UK's characteristics.
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OxygenJames

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More good news. This Brexit thing just keeps getting better and better:

(from the TImes today)

"The UK has joined Germany as the fastest-growing advanced economy in 2016 after a last-minute revision to official figures in a development that some might refer to as akin to scoring a goal in extra time.

The Office for National Statistics has revealed that the UK economy expanded by more than it originally estimated in 2016 owing to better growth in the final two quarters. This meant that the economy grew by 1.9 per cent rather than the previous estimate of 1.8 per cent.

The revision means that Britain was the fastest-growing advanced economy in the world alongside Germany, where growth was also 1.9 per cent. The US and Canada grew by 1.5 per cent, France by 1.1 and Italy and Japan by 1 per cent.

Ian Stewart, chief economist at Deloitte, said: “The UK’s performance has been rather better than the gloomy talk would suggest. Growth has come in stronger than expected a year ago and the pace of activity has edged up since July. Talk of an end to UK growth has been somewhat exaggerated.” "
 

oldgroaner

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You need to ask yourself one simple question:

Does Brexit offer the UK a bright future filled with goodness and prosperity, or are we being led by a bunch of wanchors who have no foresight and who make up Pro-Brexit sound-bites on the hoof?

The evidence should be abundantly clear. Now, can we put Brexit to bed, draw one of those lines underneath it and sit back and wait for the goodness and prosperity to arrive?
What was the question again? how do you expect that the two separate questions equate to one? lets try that again with it divided into two

  1. Can we put Brexit to bed?
  2. Can we expect prosperity under a Conservative Government?
Here are your answers
  1. No, because we have already sawn too deeply through the branch we are sitting on nearer to the tree, and the idiots further away from the cutting saw are still urging for faster strokes, and the application of an axe too.
  2. No, because the Tory track record indicates that any prosperity will be confiscated, shared out and made invisible offshore
 
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oldgroaner

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More good news. This Brexit thing just keeps getting better and better:

(from the TImes today)

"The UK has joined Germany as the fastest-growing advanced economy in 2016 after a last-minute revision to official figures in a development that some might refer to as akin to scoring a goal in extra time.

The Office for National Statistics has revealed that the UK economy expanded by more than it originally estimated in 2016 owing to better growth in the final two quarters. This meant that the economy grew by 1.9 per cent rather than the previous estimate of 1.8 per cent.

The revision means that Britain was the fastest-growing advanced economy in the world alongside Germany, where growth was also 1.9 per cent. The US and Canada grew by 1.5 per cent, France by 1.1 and Italy and Japan by 1 per cent.

Ian Stewart, chief economist at Deloitte, said: “The UK’s performance has been rather better than the gloomy talk would suggest. Growth has come in stronger than expected a year ago and the pace of activity has edged up since July. Talk of an end to UK growth has been somewhat exaggerated.” "
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From the same source.(O.N.S.
"Revisions to previous data meant, however, that annual growth in the year to the third quarter has been adjusted up from 1.5% to 1.7%. The City is expecting the economy to expand by 0.4% in the final three months of 2017, making the UK one of the slowest growing members of the G7 group of leading industrialised nations. The eurozone grew by 0.6% in the third quarter of the year.

Note that the eurozone did 50% better than we did, and the result was 1.7% not 1.9%
Living standards have been squeezed as a result of the fall in the value of the pound since the EU referendum in June 2016. The annual inflation rate has risen from below 1% to more than 3%
Fake good news you have there James
 
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flecc

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So you can only sell Bitcoin if you have a willing buyer?
Its not like shares where you can sell to a broker?
Still think its like a Ponzi scheme,only succesful if you can bring in new cash?
KudosDave
Bitcoin has taken a big dive in the last five days after previously climbing to £15,000. At one point it dropped to £8,000 but has rallied to £10,000.

I suppose this volatility has followed the recent entry of the professional financial market speculators. Perhaps they're scheming for major gains from private investors in the same way they've always done in the stock market.

It seems to me its now become considerably more risky for the general public.
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SHAN

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After months and many thousands of pounds spent on research boffins in white coats have decided that passports should in fact be blue. I know you are all getting a warm buzz from this except those who have Irish passports and they are green with envy. A petition is probably being set up at this very moment so that the Irish passport is changed to blue too... :rolleyes:
A bit of research will show great division between the colours green and blue in Northern Ireland, and Larkhall.
 
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oldgroaner

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SHAN

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More good news. This Brexit thing just keeps getting better and better:

(from the TImes today)

"The UK has joined Germany as the fastest-growing advanced economy in 2016 after a last-minute revision to official figures in a development that some might refer to as akin to scoring a goal in extra time.

The Office for National Statistics has revealed that the UK economy expanded by more than it originally estimated in 2016 owing to better growth in the final two quarters. This meant that the economy grew by 1.9 per cent rather than the previous estimate of 1.8 per cent.

The revision means that Britain was the fastest-growing advanced economy in the world alongside Germany, where growth was also 1.9 per cent. The US and Canada grew by 1.5 per cent, France by 1.1 and Italy and Japan by 1 per cent.

Ian Stewart, chief economist at Deloitte, said: “The UK’s performance has been rather better than the gloomy talk would suggest. Growth has come in stronger than expected a year ago and the pace of activity has edged up since July. Talk of an end to UK growth has been somewhat exaggerated.” "
When I see the weekly food bill getting less, and income increasing, I'll believe this.
 
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