Damn near half of us know how we like Brexit already
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Whilst I agree, I don't care what the rest of the world thinks in this respect, I just want a route out of Brexit. And so does the EU in truth.
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TM will deliver brexit while someone else, possibly JC, may provide a way out of brexit.
People keep saying JC is a closet brexiter, I think you can take what he says as what he thinks, that he is not particularly pro brexit.
How can anyone take this pillock seriously? Worse, how can such a creature be regarded as a possible contender to lead the tory party and possibly be PM of this arrogant laughing stock great country?
Ok, I get it! He's an idiot and represents the typical 'Brexit' voter - perfect!
Tom
Ok, I get it! He's an idiot and represents the typical 'Brexit' voter - perfect!
Tom
David Davis got himself lost today,trying to exit the Tory party conference....not surprising he can't exit the EU,hehe
KudosDave
KudosDave
from the daily mail:
Talks on a new trade deal with Europe will begin by Christmas, EU leaders have told Theresa May.
meanwhile, the vultures are circling around Manchester central.
Talks on a new trade deal with Europe will begin by Christmas, EU leaders have told Theresa May.
meanwhile, the vultures are circling around Manchester central.
Did they happen to mention which Christmas?
Just asking....................
it does not matter much which Christmas, we still don't know what we want now that the fizz has gone, having cake and eating it is out of the window.
I think Government policy can be summed up like this.
"We want to take full advantage of all the opportunities and advantages and profitable Trade Deals that Brexit has to offer.
We just have to figure out what they are and when and where they are and if they will be available.
........And who is going to foot the bill!"
What could possibles go wrong?
"We want to take full advantage of all the opportunities and advantages and profitable Trade Deals that Brexit has to offer.
We just have to figure out what they are and when and where they are and if they will be available.
........And who is going to foot the bill!"
What could possibles go wrong?
nothing. Most trade deals are to consolidate what's been achieved and cost very little in manpower.
nothing could go wrong... really? Nothing?
Just an additional 2 minute delay per lorry at Dover, would result in 17 miles of tailbacks.... all the time.
2 minutes additional checks / paper work could add hours to the time it takes.
That's just one of the millions of direct impacts that a trade deal can have, or not have.
Lots could go wrong... LOTS.
that's just incorrect application of maths.
Most lorries are waved through and will still be because their declaration has been done before they arrive at the border, same with containers coming from China.
You may need a bigger car/lorry park at Dover and a few hundred more customs officers but as long as the percentage of lorries subjected to physical checks does not increase, there won't be more queue on the motorway.
Hmmm... you do realise its not my maths, this comes direct from the Port of Dover.
http://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/port-dover-just-trolled-tory-561681
But hey, its good to know that you know more than the Port of Dover about the impacts of this. I'm sure everyone is reassured.
I didn't know that it was an advert from the Port of Dover.
Still, the 17 mile queue is well exaggerated.
Still, the 17 mile queue is well exaggerated.
Yes, I know its shocking isn't it, I actually fact check things BEFORE i post them
"Well exaggerated" ... in your opinion, which is based on what exactly?
Why do you seem to think your opinion is more valid / better than that of the actual Port of Dover. I can't understand where you arrogance on this comes from?
What experience of running ports have you got?
there are similar border crossings between Norway and Sweden. There, the problem is contraband of drinks and fags. Each lorry goes thrrough an x-ray machine and the customs officers will decide which ones to pull in for further checks.
The operation at Dover will of course change after the transition period but in itself not much different from Felixstowe and London Gateway Port which handle a similar amount of freight, a lot of it from and to outside the EU, without the 17-mile queue.
I used to drive up to Heathrow T4 to collect shipments of mainboards and video cards from Taiwan. Honestly, the volume of freight at Heathrow was already mind boggling 30 years ago.
The combined populations of Norway and Sweden is 15 million split 2:1.
So the traffic is let's say 10% at most of that into the uk or 5% in the other direction. In this as in other matters , size does matter. I would assume without providing evidence that the bulk of traffic from Norway into the EU would be carried by sea .. timber oil etc.
I am very concerned, and flagged it up very early on in these listings of the effects of lorries piling up on the Newry Dundalk border crossing, close to where I reside. The ROI paid for the motorway into Newry and now it will be clogged with lorries.
we are talking about Dover, one of about 5 major ports in the UK. Before 1993, it wasn't gridlocked, why should it be now? The only reason for the M20 to have operation stack was because of the French industrial action at Calais.
1993 was 25 years ago a full generation ago, there has been huge changes in customer habits since then. Much more packaged foods and more short lived consumer goods. It would not be wise to extrapolate from those times to now.
lots more KTM's coming in from Austria too
and Cubes from the Netherlands, and and and and and and and and and.But its ok, because it worked in 1993, and if we suddenly have a trade border at Dover it won't cause any problems because Woosh says so.