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I,m not attacking anyone. I,m saying it exactly as it is.

This entire post is completely and utterly ridiculous. Woosh insulted or offended nobody. Tom does this all the time. He labelled me a racist for absolutely nothing. This is a big issue in our society at moment. Folk like Tom think its ok to shout " racist" or " offensive" when literally...

Kudos I don't think Brexit ever was going to or ever will solve all UK,s ills but then again EU certainly wasn't going to. Our future lies looking further afield than Europe, staying within eu will limit those horizons and would have ( will, if we stay) start introducing further restrictions in...

In course of this thread I wonder just how many posters OG and Tom have wound up to point of sheer frustration. They see insult where there is none, offend when its totally unnecessary and generally ruin good debate. I,ve totally disagreed with Woosh, KTM,Kudos , even Tilson and lots of others...

Not if they read this forum. But no they wouldn't..have friends who could not accumalate enough points to emigrate to Aus...so they spent 5 years in NZ...went to Auz for a few years...then back to NZ... Over years it has got more difficult to emigrate to either...Doctors, teachers, generally...

But what about 2017 ? There are other scenarios, slowing the conveyor down produces better products. Ask Jaguar, Land Rover,Morgan..Uk does have niche products some of world adores. (Japan has bought droves of our old sports cars)

I,d hazard a guess that if you examined regions with over 10% majority to leave most would be die hard labour areas..( I know ours is, Tories/ Thatcher are hated in most mining towns/ villages to this day)

Tony Blaire put himself forward extolling remain policies expecting a groundswell of support from remainers. It didn't happen. Corbyn wont fully support remain because he knows it would lose him seats. Remainers might be vocal,and some might even believe in some lunatic fascist conspiracy...

Agreed but nobody was claiming to be proud. I was arguing against your conclusion for which a places position is irrelevant. What's important is the %age majority. My point still holds, in that my home town had a very high leave majority and has amongst highest percentage of immigrants, ethnic...

I said the region was 4th...you said they haven't listed towns.

KTM If you Google " Leave vote by percentage Financial Times" They have Towns listed. About 10th on list is one with 31/69..( Its actually Doncaster) Rotherham not far away voted pretty much identically. Perhaps FT have made figures up ? Both Towns have a very high percentage of migrants, EU...

My town voted 69 %leave, the region its in was 4th highest. Both have very high percentage immigrant populations. Don't think you can make generalisations anyway but the Ist generation Asians I know voted leave. As far as I know the Asian communities around us voted predominantly leave.( The...

That's wrong KTM. My own area, as I mentioned in an earlier post, is one of highest immigrant areas in country. It voted out, and I believe with 3rd highest majority in country.

I don't need to post anymore, everybody has got your measure. Just answer this Tom, why cant you simply disagree with other's opinions, offer your own and move on. You always have to insult. And yes, it was a good reasoned post, made in a civil manner, without insult.

OG You are the king of dOGma.. And no I don't want to change country into a Eastern Island of Europe. You do. The country is fine as UK, Britain or whatever term you wish. I,m happy with our sovereignty and Governance. You want Brussels in charge , not me. We,ve voted to remain as UK..let the...

That's quite an ironic stance flecc. "This division was caused by Cameron, so irrespective of MPs decision I,m going to continue it." That's no longer on Camerons hands, its on those that choose to pursue their dream of a United States Of Europe ??

So saying it as it is about Tom means I insulted him ??? He cant post without insulting somebody. He,s insulted you but you missed it ,or chose to ignore it . Just read his posts OG. Then read mine. His posts should have been deleted on numerous occasions. The bloke and his bile have damaged...

Repeating your arguments makes them no more valid Kiwi . I,ve listed by economic reasons pages ago , you choose to simply dismiss them. Lets just hope the MPs are somewhat more balanced than you and I..but that's not difficult.

Fair point flecc, I,m such a sensitive type... It worries me that country is more divided than I can ever remember. Is it a big step from division to alienation, from protest to revolt, from insult to attack. Its not a big step flecc, we should be careful.

That's saying you want MPs to decide but they aren't allowed to make decision I (you)want...??? Answer , if they cant ,vote in the ones that can..thats democracy. Unfortunately there simply are not enough remainers to do so..ir so it would appear..Otherwise this process would be happening. At...