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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wasn't one a referendum the other mob rule...??Besides what about the nearly 60 million who didn't turn up... Watched programme about English lad who,d tried to steal a policeman's firearm with intention of shooting Trump at one of his rallies..was a very sad case but with a ray of hope at...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The claim Trump didn't win vote is a spurious argument. It happens here, can happen anywhere with regional voting, unless you have proportional representation. But he is a,worrying leader..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I suspect you might be right but surely that's not democracy. Even as a leaver I honestly think it should be a freevote.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Noticed report of quite an ironic tweet from political commentator Kim Kardashian...apparently according to stats she found muslim immigrants have been responsible for the sum total of 2 American deaths. I do think we should keep our noses out of other countries politics but we,ve reached a new...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Might be an odd question from a leaver , but considering the close vote of the referendum why on earth is Corbyn insisting his MPs vote for invoking art 50 ? If I were a remainer I,d be perplexed...at least...seems a strange interpretation of democracy.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We,ve disagreed a lot but totally agree with this post...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I wasn't blaming anyone, its the folk doing the firing...or the governments making them fire. The machine gun only became feasible with advances in metalurgy, greater accuracy in production engineering and advances in chemistry for both cartridge design and propellant. Singling any single area...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And now I,ve started... Ever the businessman...Maxim then went on to sell his design to the Russians. ( After selling his company to Vickers )They used his exact design from 1910 right upto start of 2nd world war. It did not have the mods Vickers incorporated, was heavier etc etc..but...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    His design was used in Vickers and Spandau. He came to Britain because USA didn't take up his designs.Had they done so both our and Germany,s machine gun capability would have been years behind. Maxim is regarded as father of machine guns. And the army,s first machine guns were built by Maxim...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes you are correct, but the Kestrel was extensively copied by DB to make series of engines powering all ME 109s. I had a friend who worked on Merlin during war. He assured me you could remove DB 605 ( might have got numbers wrong , could be 650) and drop in a Merlin. A captured 109 was infact...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes fair point . There would be a massive dilemma around after sales. Private or not is rather a mute point. It was argued that the private engineers were part of a French military unit. In effect it makes little difference. Its the problem supplying arms to anyone and I,d hazard a guess UK is...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Just a quick comment about Argentine conflict ( yes its off topic) Yes the French did stop supplying exocet after 2nd April 1982 but at this point Argentinians were having technical problems launching. A team of French engineers sorted problem out mid April. Supplying arms to anyone has moral...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You cant blame Trump on Brexit... Its scary what's going on over there, more so with China..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I was including myself in the two..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, he didn't read that did he..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Actually I only argue with two posters...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I already told you. Re read the post. I have to listen to your posts, I assure you they sound very patronising.If I listened to them in pub I,d walk away..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Kudos We both know the likely ( or unlikely, depending how you see it) increasing of our horizons is subjective at moment and totally dependant on negotiating trade deals, agreeing taxes, tarrifs etc etc ( and possibly paying eu compensation for reduction of their markets, as has happened in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    According to you...when mods ask me to modify I would..in mean time hard luck. I,ll carry on pointing out what a PITA you and Tom actually are.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well at least now we can say MPs did or didn't take us out, instead if blaming each other and calling one side or another stupid.