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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is something intrinsically wrong though Woosh in a society that pays some of its members £100k a day plus)( Eg Adele) and yet other cant afford to eat. The world has to.operate on Capitalism ( IMHO) but we must develop a fairer model of it. I do not think either extremes of our current...
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    Fascism returns to Spain

    Good post.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sorry about you bad news OG. Good luck with it all.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We need a sheer and utter nonsense icon.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed. But Billy Bragg , Frankie Boyle and others like them are part of the problem,not the solution. They are worse than the greedy SOB you mention.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree, but there is no other system as of moment to replace it. Such as Billy Bragg epitomise the situation. They eschew socialist values yet manage to accrue ( in his case) in excess of £5 million pounds. He lives in a mansion and made his cash selling music to essentially ( recently) the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I get called adholescent for comments about cars and you are putting your faith in a failed songwriter turned left wing shouter...Or perhaps we should elect Billy Bragg as PM...what a joke. Who should we turn to in countries' hour of need. Corbyn ? May ? Lansdown ? Economists ? Mathematicians ...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It was a rhetorical question OG, you didn't have to waste your time answering it...oh hang on a minute , you didn't answer it..just wasted your time..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Completely OT but on car theme. There was a stunning Merc SL 190 parked in harbour car park this morning. I know it was cheap ( relative) brother to 300 but that car must be amongst prettiest ever built...so I,d put up with its lowly 110 bhp ( a guess) and just savour admiring glances it gets...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Be careful Kudos you,ll have the lefties up in arms buying cars like that..It is a lovely car mind. ( Not quite a Jag tho, in my Clarkson voice, the one where he mocks Arthur Daley types) ( wait for it, that will give Steb an opening...ahwell he needs a little charity now and again)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG/ Steb Do you two really expect anyone to engage in offering alternative opinions to your own ? Or are you misguided enough to think your offerings are likely to change anyone's opinion ? Your attitudes have simply strengthened those opinions you oppose. ( Apart from Stebs adholescent...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Just get a Jag XF Peter.
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    Hamilton 4th World Title !!

    No its not that bad flecc..if it were Hamilton would have won none...To be fair though I was expecting a DNF for Hamilton and a win for Vetel...would have pushed result to next race...
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    Hamilton 4th World Title !!

    We all know Lewis has just won his 4th Championship. IMHO he,s certainly amongst best 3 or 4 of all time. Him beating Ferrari so convincingly is very pointed when compared with performances Bottas has put in. I don't think Merc would have beaten Ferrari without Lewis this year. I also dont...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So lets get this right flecc. Corbyn is anti EU because he thinks the majority of voters are also anti EU ?? But he will never know. His argument becomes self fullfilling. Nobody can vote against exiting eu because that policy isn't put forward, so voters have no choice but support leaving...but...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG We,ve OG We,ve had a GE since referendum. Your views were not represented by either major party. Had labour won ( which they didn't btw) we would still be leaving. The rest of your argument is smoke and mirrors? Why is it the tories fault your views were not represented in the GE ? Why is...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But labour are saying exactly the same. Corbyn is probably more anti EU than May.. Yes, we are in a mess but can you imagine what a bigger mess we,d be in with Father Christmas Corbyn getting in by giving presents to everybody he,s borrowed money to buy..and then Diane Abot advising us all ...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG said he,d show his danglies in co op window when, if England won world cup. He will deny it but its true.. I think this counts. Tom can sell tickets to raise money for loony lefts. And Utd beat the Harry Kane team. Great day . Always sunny in Moraira.
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    Fascism returns to Spain

    Very good post. Agree entirely.
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    The "death" of the car, (as we know it)

    Great post.