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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    One of the beauties (limitations) of English is the ability to have more than one meaning with a sentence - it explains much of what goes on, here and indeed in other places. Can be good fun.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Just a wee bit silly now, they didn't have supermarkets in those days. You just went around the place(s) and helped yourself. Just to take this a little further. So, could everyone else, we were just that little bit better at it than the rest of Europe combined. Perhaps, we could be again - why not!
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Fear not I obviously read what you wrote then chose to reply as I did - it's a failing I have and one that seems afflict all of us. All 1009 pages are littered with such examples. There's was no need for you to embellish what you said about Empire. I'm sure that you would accept that at the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Statistics and damn lies. But, I suspect your guess is as good as anyone else's - you really think we'd rush out to join, enmass?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    "The last time we managed that was by theft of resources from a large empire with slavery providing much of the labour. " I obviously missed the economic argument you made - you seemed to imply that we went around shooting people, stealing from them and generally taking advantage?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Maybe some of that sticks but, I do object to people who choose to see history or even would rewrite it to meet a modern day set of values. Totally pointless and very unfair on our ancestors, possibly including your own?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The problem with that is it will fail to resolve any of the problems we have, that includes the United States of Europe. It's not unlike the fall of the Roman Empire, never mind our own. It would seem to simply be the cycle of things: rise to the top and sink to the bottom. History doesn't bode...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There's a lot of truth in that. Fortunately I won't be here and neither will you I suspect - just a lot of old hot-air aren't we? The Japanese are good at the long game and in many ways the Chinese deserve better so I don't feel so bad with that scenario. Better than wasting it all on the Europeans.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Pragmatic if completely unsound. It (EU) will go pop and fairly soon I suspect. Debatable whether or not we, having left, BREXIT, and sorted ourselves out to become a great trading nation once more with real money in the bank will be big enough to deter the hordes from the Continent intent on a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It is certainly one of the available options, probably the unfriendly one but it takes two or in this case 1+29. At some point the silliness will stop, I hope.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Are you allowed to say that? Probably not = it should have been cooked of course - we were talking about Turkey's / Christmas and the useful hot air it produces?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I didn't actually say that I applauded current Tory policies but even you surely concede that the need for some belt tightening is a necessity? We are living way beyond our means and paying some far too much for doing absolutely nothing - and yes, some get far too much for arguably doing a lot...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And I would remind you of the Great Team out there Batting on our behalf. "It's hard to soar like an Eagle when you work among Turkeys." Burn them then
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No difficulty there with so much hot air down below.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I obviously have rather more faith than you do. I really do think it important to encourage people to fend for themselves and from that succeed. Bit of a Tory mantra I guess but I obviously favour less government and BREXIT gives us that opportunity once more. The EU is one enormous nanny-state...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps, reminds me of our own Bulldog spirit, we too will survive and probably do rather well and better than our bigger neighbours
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Now reminded that Cuba is held in high regard by the left as being a model for what can be achieved by Socialism.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Would be good for tourism with everyone coming across to see our old buildings and diesel cars. Just as well we have the National Trust and all these old heritary titled people's to guide them around.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Indeed and more so the exchanges on a park bench with Dudley Moore and Peter Cook. Probably, the basis for everything I knew at the time. Better than any University education!
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What next for the EU...