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No, OG's grumble of folk voting for Boris is widespread. He often asks why folk voted for him, questioning him over his response to OJ has led to admission on his part he voted forCorbyn hoping he wouldnt meet any of his pledges. Besides, why are you trying to meditate (? your word, presumably...

That doesnt explain your unjustified criticism of OJ for actually agreeing with you. He didnt approve of BJ's increasing minimum wage either. Your arguments are senseless. You voted for Corbyn hoping none of his "pledges" could be met but expecting a referendum! He had to get a deal through EU...

You have confused me even more. I dont disagree with either Corbyn's or BJ's proposed spending. Whereas you criticised BJ's but voted for a man proposing to spend around 8 times more. You then went on to criticise OJ for criticising exactly that you criticised. ie) BJ's spending. You are all...

Might. And you are making massive assumptions with a remain win. And yes I assumed Corbyn just got in power, an almost realistic possibility. Him doing so with an 80 majority complete fantasy as is getting entire labour party to agree on anything as they would have to have stood anychance of...

Agreed on all that but what about getting deal past house (Tories would have done same as Labour did with May, ie vote everything down) And same for refererendum. You are assuming not just a Corbyn government but a srong majprity for it aswell. Getting into realms of fantasynow flecc.

Yes, by a grown up. But you voted for a man who was going to dwarf BJ's increased spending? You cant argue a strategy from Boris is bad but vote for an extreme version of that same strategy. Well, I suppose you can. But, you are agreeing with OJ. He was also against Boris's plans for miinimum...

You dont know that at all Flecc. Corbyn was planning on negotiating another deal and then putiing that to a referendum.And that's assuming he would arrive at a deal and then get both the deal and referendum request through house. He, d have needed at least a good majority to do either. Suspect...

Just stop and think what we would now be facing with a Corbyn govt. Another referendum to argue over and a weak government not getting anything through house with still no end in site for anything.

That has got to be your hardest to undertsand post yet. You seem to be changing your stance to argue against OJ but I, m not sure.Really. Are you against Boris raising minimum wage or just against anything OJ says? Its difficult for you to be against both in this instance, I think trying to do...

Think we all are, its just how to get there.

You seem to do ok on it.. (smiley face)

Yep, lecturers??

Great post OG, I love off the wall mad thinking. Wasnt Rasputin errr, for want of a nicer word.... shagging the kings Mrs . Cant see Cummings at Buck palace somehow. Pity Corbyn didnt have a Cummings. Do you think he, d be after DA?

But flecc the number of jobs held down is irrelevant. Its the total hours worked and the total pay taken home. Besides, more jobs means more travelling, more wasted time and less efficiency. Perhaps all workers should be also paid a profit sharing bonus?? Then we could scrap minimum wage? How...

Trouble is tho OJ employees will pay whatever absolute minimum is, to maximise their profits. With high unemployment and hard times that can be very low. At better times employers have to offer better wages to attract employees. The rate is not determined by what employers should or could pay...

Not sure how that stance sits with your socialist views and support of JC? He was talking 4 day week and mininum wage of at least £10 per hour? If a business can't support paying its employees a living wage it perhaps isnt competitive enough to survive?

OG, before you had Boris and Brexit to show all this love towards who was target of your affections. Bet they are relieved about both.They, ll be looking forward to a peaceful new year. I bet you were a riot to work with. Errr, Wasnt one referendum enough. It's what caused all this. Feck...

Now stop using facts Woosh. That is out of order.

They cant get through to Hull.

You arent saying OG is negative are you Dave. Well go to naughty corner and consider yourself admonished. We just wont accept this. OG negative. Well I never.