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    bikemotion x35

    About 1/5th the way down is Article 4 'Vehicle categories', Section 2.a.(ii): https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eur/2013/168/body > L1e-B vehicle (two-wheel moped); It really is a moped, with all the laws that come associated with that (inc type approval, reg plate, helmet, brakes on both wheels...
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    bikemotion x35

    Ah - good correction, sjpt. My mistake. And above 15.5mph you're in motorbike/moped territory - proper British Standard helmet, etc: https://www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules > Any electric bike that does not meet the EAPC rules is classed as a motorcycle or moped and needs to be registered and...
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    bikemotion x35

    Firstly I'm no expert, but I'd say you're best going down the Bafang / Tongsheng route, for a few random reasons (depending on whether you're touring or MTB'ing): - The ebikemotion setup is designed to be inside the frame, where most of the connectors are protected from a direct water/mud hit...
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    bikemotion x35

    Don't worry - I'm sensible enough. Neither bike was puchased new. However, I appreciate the tidy design and weight of the ebikemotion system, but I agree you're open to financial abuse with a closed system.
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    bikemotion x35

    Ah, but it was Mahle who replied, right? They make them for all those bikes. I was thinking more along the lines of non-Mahle vendors. But as Nealh says, they may not exist.
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    bikemotion x35

    Hmm, interesting! Presumably the 'other brand' extender needs to match the pinout and CANbus protocol though. Does anyone know of an alternative? The ebikemotion ones are inordinately expensive at £549 for a relatively small battery (208 Wh).
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    bikemotion x35

    From a second bike. :) I have two Orbea Gains - one that works, one that doesn't. Yet. I bought one as faulty with the intention of fixing it. Seller claimed it was a faulty PAS (Hall effect) sensor, but it was something more obscure (Phase III connection error: Erorr code 24), which sounded...
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    bikemotion x35

    Battery and controller are in one compact unit. And the external wiring has an impressive number of pins per connector - 6 to 9 each - who knows if they're all used. Motor cable has 9 pins - 8 + 1 central. A wiring diagram (as in pinouts) would be sweet, but with the pesky closed system it may...
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    bikemotion x35

    The dealer app PDF says: > Remember that when there are components in the eBike with different e-SN the system generates ERROR 25, component protection error. This error will DISABLE THE FUNCTIONING OF THE EBIKE SYSTEM. You must make the e-SN assignment process so that all components have the...
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    Canyon Grail:On vs. Specialized Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon Evo

    Sounds like you're covered nicely, whatever you do. Buy it, buy it! (who said that?)
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    Canyon Grail:On vs. Specialized Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon Evo

    Yup, that's the same as my Orbea (ebikemotion system) - use the bike below 0°C, but don't charge it below 0°C. The good news is that the Specialized won't actually allow it. I'm not sure the ebikemotion system actively blocks charging at low temps, as Specialized does. Is any limit on maximum...
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    Canyon Grail:On vs. Specialized Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon Evo

    Riding it in the cold is fine, as is storage. However charging it in the cold it isn't. Below 0C is a no-no, I believe. +5C is the suggested minimum for my internal battery bike, which means I need to drag the whole bike indoors, in deep winter, to charge it. You might also find yours has a...
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    Canyon Grail:On vs. Specialized Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon Evo

    Fun? It's a commute - you're not allowed to have fun! [fast-dials the Fun Police] You definitely get a lot of clacking if you backpedal a Fazua (even on slight backpedals), but I've not had any noises on forward motion. In terms of the assistance it is quite gentle (on purpose). The Fazua...
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    Canyon Grail:On vs. Specialized Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon Evo

    How about the Canyon Roadlite:ON. Less weight, removable battery, spare cash. https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/e-bikes/e-fitness-bikes/roadlite-on/ Or an Endurace:ON if you're after drop bars: https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/e-bikes/e-road-bikes/endurace-on/ Only 12Km each way means you can use full...
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    Next! Going from Giant Dirt-E to what? Struggling!

    The Orbea Gain F range (F30/F40, etc) and Boardman Hybrid HYB8.9e are worth a look. The Orbea is similar to the Ribble, and Boardman is a Fazua-based design. As you say, 15.5mph is the law, as is the 250W limit, and these both adhere to it. Anything else is literally cheating. :rolleyes: In...
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    Hi from Mark in Belgium

    I like the idea of monthly rental, Mark. When tech is (relatively) new and expensive, such as ebikes, it avoids a multi-year lock-in when you know something better is on the way next year! I wonder if it exists in the UK?
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    Tesla announce a major battery advance

    We're off at a bit of a tangent here, but there is an affordable* Polestar 2: https://www.polestar.com/uk/polestar-2/ All electric, no hybrid deceit. Good stuff. * That's 'less than a 90s house affordable', to you
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    Tesla announce a major battery advance

    Agreed Swizz! It's odd to say it's hype when they appear to work as intended (generally). If you can afford one - ouch. The competition appears to still be thinking about what to do, as far as I can tell. For example - self-charging hybrids - whaat?! That's just delaying the combustion to...
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    Electric bikes discredited

    Ah - quite true. A good road bike on the flat will beat most pedelecs. I was imagining you meant uphill - sorry!
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    Happy eBay E-Biker.....

    As a 6'5"er I completely understand the hassle of finding a big enough frame, especially via eBay. You've done well! But you mention an upgrade - why not stick with it, if it works?