Canyon Grail:On vs. Specialized Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon Evo

[richtea99]

Yup, that's the same as my Orbea (ebikemotion system) - use the bike below 0°C, but don't charge it below 0°C.
The good news is that the Specialized won't actually allow it. I'm not sure the ebikemotion system actively blocks charging at low temps, as Specialized does.

Is any limit on maximum charging time mentioned? If so, does the charger also protect against accidental long charges? (Again I don't think mine does - it's up to me to pull the plug after 5 hours or less)

 

[brandon98]

This is the closest info that I could find in the Specialized manual:
"Batteries have undercharge and overcharge protection, so that they can be charged/discharged as needed".

 

[richtea99]

Sounds like you're covered nicely, whatever you do. Buy it, buy it! (who said that?)

 

[Amoto65]

Sizes tend to be a bit small on the Creo, I ended up with a medium even though I would normally buy a small in a road bike.

 

[brandon98]

@Amoto65 :
May I ask how tall you are?
I sat on the L and M version and on both i had the feeling that I sat 2 tads too dynamic.
Didn't want the kind shop owner to switch or turn the stem to allow a more upright position.
5'10" - that's my height by the way.

 

[Amoto65]

5'6" but I like a low seat height compared to the bars and have switched the stem around.

 

[Bobajob]

Tony, I have been watching how you bend narratives and facts to guide people towards the bikes you have in stock. Good luck to you. I know you're only trying to finance your lifestyle. As you know, people will accept any bullshit you give them. The more complicated you make the theories and explanations, the more they swallow it. It's not difficult to program them to buy what you want to sell them.

Luckily for me, my lifestyle is a lot less expensive than yours and I don't have to rely on elctric bike stuff to finance it, so I'm in an independent situation, where I can say things as they are.

Like hub-motored bikes, crank-drive ones have some advantages in some situations, but those situations tend to be exclusive to commuting.

I was one vfr as I didn’t have a clue what to buy all I knew was I needed an electric bike.
all the salesmen (not one woman) said go for mid crank drive, all said either Bosch or Yamaha being the best available and one salesman said in his opinion racing and riding mountain ebikes for years the Yamaha, though not the quietest was by far the most reliable. I did have a scout around his shop and it had a good split of all types of motors.
so I ended up with a mid drive Yamaha motored haibike.
Then I found this site just as I was buying so went through with the deal and started reading posts here on varying motors etc etc. Which now in hindsight I think I’d have gone for a cheaper rear hub motor I could service and repair myself.

 

[Woosh]

It's true that you can service a hub motor yourself but what would you have bought in place of your Haibike?

 

[Bobajob]

It's true that you can service a hub motor yourself but what would you have bought in place of your Haibike?

one of yours would have been high in the list I feel.
I’m not complaining as the haibike is fairly good. I could have saved a good £500 buying something different.

 

[brandon98]

Hi @All,

to wrap things up - I went for the Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon evo with that green-ish color. Looks great even with the Specialized fenders mounted. It's fun to ride and I'm happy I made this decision.
Thanks a lot!