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Hi Leigh I think he did I'll try and find it

I'll agree with you on that one, its a lot easier deciding a car or motorbike. Your bike is a woosh?

How about I consult with a shop buy a frame and bits and ask a shop to make the bike for a fee?

Thanks Dave

You have a very good attitude, that goes a long way for me in this day and age. Everything you have explained to me is appreciated and has helped me make a buying decision.

Agreed, but many things I have done in my life have been illogical, hence 27 years in Asia, LOL. Going the conversion route is not set in stone but if I do then it will be a Woosh motor. You guys at Woosh and Wisper along with a few other dealers are awesome, well done!

I agree, also if a used cannondale, specialized etc, if upgrading can take the kit off put original front wheel back on and still get half back what you originally paid for the bike and put ekit on the new bike. Does this make sense? Without any disrespect to woosh and this is only a question...

You are probably right but I was just considering something leaner, which might pedal better unassisted without battery.

Thanks again, so it boils down to bite the bullet on derailleurs forget the hub motors, which add more weight anyway. Then either take the big bear off the shelf for £1,099 or get a sturdy bike like the pic you sent or strong second hand around £200 and convert £600 + fitting and extras £100 +...

Perfect, nothing wrong with the gumtree bike looks good on the rack.

Anything wrong with buying second hand £175 to £250? Ive seen cubes, ridgebacks, etc less than a year old at those prices where their original price more than double! That's another thing I notice, depreciation seems high on a lot of bikes both electric and pedal.

I get you dave. You favour the big bear kit at £599 over Oxydrive and Cyclotricity? The latter is direct drive?

That's something else I've learnt, thanks

It's me… :-)

Its interesting to hear that there is such snobbery in other areas of sport and noted that our friends on the water also like dipping their toes in the pedelec arena… [emoji6]

Did you mean keep derailleurs and also stick to BPM over Crank Drive? Put BPM on front or back wheel? Battery in pannier or downpipe?

Thanks Dave, that's the push I needed.

Isn't mine showing correctly? Looks fine here