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  1. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Where, and by whom? This was last July's numbers. The UK has a population of 63.7 million, of which 5.3 million (8%) are non-British, and just over half of those - 2.9 million (5%) - are from Europe. A quick bit of google work and I think you might be getting your numbers mixed up. 3.5...
  2. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    hmm... maths. 2.24 million EU nationals in work. 2.9 milliion EU in the UK. So that's not a million out of work, its 660,000 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-uk-leaves-the-eu-36745584
  3. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ok, but that's your mistake, as with most of this thread, I think many have a solution to problems in mind, but its not the right one. In this case the solution is that you use your common sense and see that it clearly isn't KTM world wide posting on this forum, then you read and see under the...
  4. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So we knock benefits on the head for anyone who can work, then? Problem solved. or we make companies pay a better wage? Problems solved. or a bit of both. Explain to me why one or both of these isn't an option in the UK currently?
  5. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't have a clue about the views of KTM in Austria, well I do, but its not being discussed on here, because I'm not posting as them am I? This is clearly me commenting, under the name of KTM UK, which isn't even a company. We are FLi, and I own it, I don't put all posts to the office before...
  6. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Zlatan, meet Woosh, because it was Woosh who was hoping Brexit would cause 1 million to loose benfits and leave, solvingt the housing crisis. Not me. Also regarding the expat comments, I don't think I even need to comment on them do I. You know what I'll say I'm sure.
  7. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ok, so what are you proposing for the couple from France, where the husband is a doctor and the wife stays home to look after the kids who are both school age. (massive generalisation for obvious purpose) Are you going to send the "EU migrant not in work" home? because there are stories with...
  8. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    agreed there is a pool of labour, no arguement on that one. However as said above... the fact you think leaving the EU will suddenly motivate this pool of labour to go into training to get the high paid jobs, or get dirty to do the low paid ones is what I'm struggling to comprehend. The care...
  9. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    3 million EU citizens in the UK. UK unemployment fell by 37,000 to 1.6 million in the three months to September, hitting an 11-year low. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37997713 So if the EU citizens leave, we're short 1.4 million people to fill those spaces in jobs. We're also expecting...
  10. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not really putting across opinions, I'm trying to present facts, which was the point of the thread wasn't it? But just FYI, the chief of KTM is German, living and working in Austria, and married to a nice lady from Liverpool - she cried on the morning of the 24th June, I know because I was...
  11. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The statement wasn't mine, it was from the head of the NFU. http://www.nfuonline.com/sectors/crops/crops-news/harvest-highlights-post-brexit-labour-questions-s/
  12. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Firstly where have you got this "1 million" figure from? I'm not saying its wrong, but in February 2016, so 1 year ago... the Treasury minister Jim O’Neill was asked by the Labour peer Jeremy Beecham to give an estimate of “the annual benefits paid to EU migrants in the UK and the contribution...
  13. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh, look the NFU... the voice of farmers, they must be experts on farming. yesterday expressing major concerns about labour shortages. As many "leavers" don't seem to want to acknowlegde... WE NEED THIS MIGRANT LABOUR!! Farmers have warned that food will “rot in the fields” and Britain will...
  14. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    True, we don't have to, but we do. So who's fault is that, oh lets look. The Home Office, and who were they run by, oh yes, Teresa May. So they are blaming the EU for something that we've had control over, but not used the powers. So again not the EUs fault... If you think us booting out...
  15. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Current EU law... gives Citizens of European Union countries ‘free movement’ rights within the EU. At present this gives them the right to live and work in the UK. We don't have to pay benefits, or give free access to NHS. Yes, and under current EU law we can send them back if after 3 months...
  16. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ok, so sell it to me. Don't describe current problems. Show me how leaving the EU is going to mean all the industries and companies that are currently booming in the UK, or in many cases just surviving (I'm thinking health care here) with the benefit of the in your words "cheap and disposable...
  17. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your inability to see that my concerns with Brexit are born from something called empathy gives an insight into your state of mind. My concerns for this country and its citizens are based on lots of things, and yes my knowledge of trade from my current business, but its also effected by my...
  18. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Ongoing reliability of Kalkhoff/Focus Impulse 2 motors

    I don't work for Bosch, so I'm not the person to ask. But to be fair to Bosch, you can't "just" return a dead motor to them.
  19. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ok... so you're saying migration from the EU is causing the homeless in London. funnily enough, if you read Shelter's website, they don't put the EU near the top of the list... in fact its not even on the list...
  20. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Ongoing reliability of Kalkhoff/Focus Impulse 2 motors

    he could.... of course, but it is pretty obvious when dongles have been used, especially when you know which shop is submitting the warranty.