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  1. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This discussion around bike shops, does seem to fit in well with the Brexit debate.. Reason. People seem to have opinions, that they seem comfortable to share on the net, and I'm sure in pubs and conversations in the real world that are simply nonsense. Luckily there isn't a referendum on the...
  2. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No No No No No No, and again no. a) This is number of bikes imported into the UK, it doesn't matter how they are sold to the customer. There has been a big decline. and b) And there wasn't a sudden change to internet sales in 2017. The internet has been around for too long now to blame...
  3. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    See - Soho bikes. One of today's closures. https://cyclingindustry.news/londons-mtb-specialist-soho-bikes-announces-closure/
  4. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I know many many IBDs that use eBay and Amazon to advertise their bikes, their websites are just internet shop windows. Ebay is not a shop, Amazon in some cases start to take on stock of good selling items themselves, but I'm not sure many bike brands supply Amazon directly. Also Amazon and...
  5. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ebay, doesn't sell anything! Its bike shops advertising on there who sell the bikes. Same with Amazon in most cases.
  6. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    10% of bike shops closing in the past 12 months is directly related to brexit.
  7. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A bike shops primary function is to s No, again you're not reading things properly.. Your seeing what you want to see. Halfords said... there are over 2,500 bike shops in the UK, the majority of which are independents.
  8. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The difference isn't a new one. The success of our elite cyclists is because of this, not the cause of this. In the UK cycling is a sport, not a form of transport. This is also the reason the UK is behind mainland Europe in terms of the number of people riding eBikes, which are historically a...
  9. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ITS NOT MY FIGURE!!! ITS THE FIGURE FROM THE CYCLE INDUSTRY I'm just sharing it. I didn't count them! Halfords say less... 2500.
  10. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You've said there are 18,000 bike shops. This is wrong. According to Halfords own definition of a bike shop, there are 2500. Its generally agreed in the industry there are about that. I've heard up to 3000 depending on how you define bike shop.
  11. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    and another one gone... https://www.facebook.com/sohobikeslondon/?hc_ref=ARRgtnjKimFmMP1RlnNOuDuXwrNNim7OE0NAhJNEDZXuKwWqoSP-mKO8b1PiUsvvVOw&fref=nf
  12. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why can't you just admit you're wrong? The chaps at Halfords are telling you there are 2500 bike shops in the UK, and everything I've read or looked at over the past 10 years indicates there is a maximum of about 3000 bike shops in the UK. Why do you think you know better? you do realise...
  13. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    no... you've not read it properly. There are over 2500 bike shops in the UK, and 10% of them have closed in the last year. "The cycling market is highly fragmented; there are over 2,500 bike shops in the UK, the majority of which are independents. The changing marketplace and growth in online...
  14. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wow, 18,000 that's a lot more than I make it. But I'm sure you've got a source for that number? I suspect it includes things like Tesco's But anyway that's a different issues. The fact is bike shops are closing at the fastest rate in years and years. I don't need anecdotal evidence to back...
  15. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    its not rumour mongering to suggest that x number of businesses are due to close if you know it to be fact. It would be unprofessional to name them, whilst they are still trading. Surely you can see that?
  16. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sorry, but that would be unprofessional and not fair. I know of a good number of bicycles shops that are about to close. But I'm not going to post their names, because they might change their minds, they might come into some cash and stay open. Things can change, but that doesn't change the...
  17. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is true, but I think you'll find the shift is from UK based chinese eBike specific brands that people set up to meet demand in the UK in early years, to big bicycle brands now having more and more of their range dedicated to eBikes. The same will happen with shops (and is actually...
  18. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think you'll find the UK is often a very good investment, its eBikes that are often a very dodgy investment. ;)
  19. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Clearly data is going to be a bit out of date, but that was the best I could find last night when I had a quick look. I've found this from 2016 now, which shows, Brazil is still more than Vietnam. http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/EDN-20170929-1 Interestingly the...
  20. KTM Bike Industries UK

    EBMA files an anti dumping complaint on chinese e-bikes.

    ....or in some cases reduces your costs and increases your ability to cope.