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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    in a different context a worrying question, I was reflecting with a friend yesterday how everyone suddenly insisting eu migrants "shouldn't worry at all about being here" had quite the opposite effect, including momentary visions of a gauleiter shouting that the train is indeed going somewhere...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    and there is the small matter of those big knockers..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    be fair, she did vote for and against same sex marriage: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jul/07/gove-leadsom-tory-leadership-vote-final-two-politics-live
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    beautiful. utterly charming. AND this version of the charge of the light brigade is with live ammunition, too. I must get my opera glasses.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    yes, whenever I see footage on tv of eastern Europe I'm always struck by how beautiful the nature looks. I was thinking it could be fun to live in an expat English "jungle" somewhere on the border of, oh I don't know, Romania? Perhaps with regular attempts of competing with other Englishmen to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    i have a hunch even the most ardent brexit supporters are aching to draw a line under the whole experience, "put it down to experience", "let's not mention it again, no?" and pay the little price of immigration if everyone can just, er, "move on". they have screwed themselves and the rest of us...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    where on earth have all you happy brexit campers gone? same place as boris or farage? you cant possibly leave the party, just when it's all getting interesting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36721278 looks rosy no? luvverly? what was it about getting with the programme you were on about...
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    Insult to Democracy

    I'm afraid not. we were an overindulged unproductive society harbouring misguided delusions about being special. we are, after al, about to discover the hard way what happens to people who dont think before making important decisions in an interdependent reality. Those who voted brexit have just...
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    Step through bikes

    not if you're Dutch, and/or transporting an attractive lady on the rack, and/or smoking a spliff, and/or give it the fattest big apples you can fit, or do all of these simultaneously
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    it will be interesting to see how bad things need to get before those who voted leave register consciously we live in an interdependent world https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2016/jul/06/brexit-fears-pound-slides-stock-markets-business-live
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I wish this would be how things will work out. I'm afraid the economic crap looks as if it will become the only show in town. And the tory election process wont help this (even if they elected, say , May, the kind of unintelligent noises she makes - such as about eu immigrants in uk - suggests...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36713356
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So commercial property is about to crash,followed by contagion,and an outflow of foreign investment. Naively thought they'd wait for the dust to settle and article 50 to be forgotten,but no such luck
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b17b4250-427f-11e6-9b66-0712b3873ae1.html#axzz4DXffuwQu oh ****
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    sailing is funny that way. one could buy a She31, an old cruiser racer that's way beyond exquisite, for less than £10k, and spend twenty times that much on a bloated Bavaria that does nothing well.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    here's a new description of the obvious really, for those who think this has anything to do with anxiety "inside" UK (it does not, it's how the world sees us) http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/07/05/renewed-sterling-selloff-sends-pound-to-fresh-31-year-low-against-the-dollar/ and why sterling...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    that's very understanding of you (I mean it) the problem is that brexit was IMHO a very bad way to do a protest vote. but I can see after years of austerity and with a Westminster system not offering a way to take an anti-establishment position (and the establishment being rotten to the core and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    yes but she still has to publish her tax return and all those sweet selfish little retired xenophobes who voted leave wont like what's in it one little bit
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There really is so much more than panic driving us towards recession. And I say that as someone who is unfortunately on the same boat.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He may be on to something,I was listening to Jeremy Bowen describe the horror of life in Baghdad earlier and thought a how much we take democracy and peace for granted and b how rapidly nightmares happen