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    Do the cops care about illegal eBikes?

    No the VCA has set in place a penalty structure meaning that they can be fined 10's of thousands if they don't have adequate terms and conditions related to off road use only. If they're the economic operator (legal jargon for an importer who sells on goods for a profit) they are legally obliged...
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    Do the cops care about illegal eBikes?

    Untrue Get your facts straight and if you want to look it up yourself. If you ride an unregistered, untaxed, uninsured, non type approved moped (which is what these are) you as an individual are liable to these penalties Also the VCA informed me as an economic operator I am liable to keep...
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    Do the cops care about illegal eBikes?

    Well if the police use their powers then they can end up fined 10's of thousands and they are legally obliged to hold records so all buyers if prosecuted face a minimum of 6 points and an unlimited fine and with the endorsements for driving without insurance undoubtedly they will be refused car...
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    Do the cops care about illegal eBikes?

    The terms and conditions of sale are critical as although you're correct to say it's legal to sell the onus is on the retailer as they're described as the professional in law. I worked in the motor trade for years and selling anything retail that's non compliant gets you toasted if the buyer...
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    Do the cops care about illegal eBikes?

    To answer the original question, they only prosecute "in the public interest" So if speed pedelecs become an issue like monkey bikes did, they will be all over it. The penalties for suppliers are much stiffer than for the general public, so you will find those that are willing to do the work...
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    Do the cops care about illegal eBikes?

    Yes a civil offence that gets a fixed penalty notice Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
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    Powabyke brush holder plate

    If you get stuck Bernie at Bikes and batterys Ltd can help with this Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
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    Thumb throttle

    ???? Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
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    Thumb throttle

    Like I said before, prosecutions will only be done if it's deemed to be in the public interest. Ultimately we are talking about a minor traffic offence and there's no money in the pot to fulfill the existing workload. I suspect that if the cyclist who was prosecuted for killing a pedestrian...
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    Thumb throttle

    There is definitely some guff there. I was particularly amused by the supposed electrical engineer who really should know the difference between peak power and RMS Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
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    Thumb throttle

    "Would that line of thought not extend to sellers of dongles ?" Yes, I assume you are talking about power boosters, which are expressly illegal now "Shops that sell MTB's with no lights or reflectors fitted ?" There is no legal requirement to fit lights, it is illegal to supply a complete...
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    Thumb throttle

    Okay well if I missed out some information then I will add it. As of 1/1/16 bikes with a throttle have a different classification (L1e-A). As the questioner is changing the classification of a vehicle used on the public highway it must pass the relevant testing procedures, which is type...
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    Thumb throttle

    Yes, because you are wrong in my opinion. From what you are saying 1) the VCA is wrong , (who wrote the rules) 2) The government guidance is wrong 3)the head of ebikes at Raleigh(among many other industry people) is wrong Etc. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
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    Thumb throttle

    Well the police and CPS do prosecutions, not the dft. I asked a direct question about supply of throttles and I was told I would be legally liable. I think you are back to my point about the public interest requirements for prosecutions to be sought. Anyhow, the original poster has a range of...
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    Thumb throttle

    Okay for all those who think it's OK to change a vehicle class, if you deristrict a moped to do 50mph and rode it on a moped licence and insurance is that OK? What is OK is adding a tow bar, for example, as this does not change the class of vehicle. Fit one to a 3.5t van and don't fit a...
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    Thumb throttle

    I had to gain access to a PC https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/482015/electrically-assisted-pedal-cycles.pdf The top of page 3 states what I have said. I did 6 months of investment and investigation and I worked in the motor industry on vehicle...
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    Thumb throttle

    I will post the document / link if I can BTW Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
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    Thumb throttle

    No it is right because by making the modifications you are changing the class of vehicle from bicycle to L1e-A, which is notifiable. I have not made further investigation as I abandoned the project, however when I spoke to the head of department at the VCA he said verbally that I would be...
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    Thumb throttle

    The concession is it needs to be type approved. This is to prevent claims for disability discrimination, the reality being it's almost impossible to do. I do have a copy of the government guidance from the VCA and it's black and white on this as well as Road buttons on motors above 250w Sent...
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    Thumb throttle

    Of course modifying the bike is your prerogative. 1 thumb throttles are expressly banned by law from 1/1/16, any bike imported before this date can be modified. 2 to make it legal you must take the bike to a VOSA testing station to get the bike individually type approved. 3 if you make the...