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Wisper Bikes

Trade Member
Apr 11, 2007
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Sevenoaks Kent
Hi Pedelecers all,

I wondered if I could ask you for some help?

If you could design and own a perfect electric bike what would you like to see, added, improved or taken away?

You never know your wish my just come true! :D

Many thanks David
 

Django

Esteemed Pedelecer
Feb 11, 2007
453
1
Quite simply, I want a bike where cost is no (or little) object. An 'off road only' limited edition with 30mph top speed, 25+ mile genuine range, cut down to the bare essentials, excellent climbing ability, top class components throughout and, most importantly, first class service.

£2500 would have me very interested indeed and as a marketing ploy would be a massive boost to the comany that did it. Think Ducati 1098R.
 

TomB

Pedelecer
Feb 2, 2008
72
0
other than the obvious, lighter, more efficient, better range...

how about offering a spec-your-own approach like brompton.

or, while waitng for better and better batteries, how about a range of matching trailers: kiddy, luggage, expedition... the trailer would hold an additional battery that could be coupled to the bike power system to compensate for the additional drain needed to tow the trailer.

or, could evan have powered sidecar type traiers, the trailer having a battery and a motor...

:)
 

Bikerbob

Pedelecer
May 10, 2007
215
0
Isle of Man
I'd go for lightness (under 20kg complete with battery), good hill climbing but OK to ride unassisted, at least 25 miles range in hilly country, a battery that really will last for a high number of recharges, non-frumpy design with crossbar and decent looks (a step-through option would broaden the appeal), simplicity (sell it as a basic bike and perhaps offer a 'fully loaded' option), good quality cycle components, reliable availability information, good after sales service, all for under £1000 please!
 

flecc

Member
Oct 25, 2006
53,284
30,660
Central motor and drive through the gears like the Panasonic unit but with some important differences:

1) Software aligned to our legal permissability, not the restrictive Japanese.

2) Range of selectable power assist levels up to 66%.

3) Slightly more available net power.

4) A gears unit that was up to the job of handling all the combined power.

5) Accommodation for a remote second battery with built in connectors.

6) Rim brakes but with some additional electrical braking through the transmission. This operating on the initial travel of one of the brake levers to give retardation on long inclines without high rim wear.

Circa 25 kilos and £1500.
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SEATALTEA

Pedelecer
Jun 18, 2008
137
0
I wish your 905se was £995 then I'd have bought it through the cycle2work scheme.

You are losing sales since the scheme tops out at 1k.
 

Tiberius

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 9, 2007
919
1
Somerset
I'd like a neat solution to the drop handlebars problem (see recent thread on the subject).

Because what I'd like is an ebike that is sporty, lightweight and handles well. And then when I want it, it will deliver 750 W of assistance. What I mean is I want something that, when you pedal it unassisted, feels as if it will be happy to do 30 mph, and then will do 30 mph.

Nick
 

JohnofCambridge

Pedelecer
Aug 21, 2007
113
0
Stapleford, Cambridge
One of the positives I already have is a nearby retailer so I don't have to worry how to get it back anywhere.

I would also like an upgrade path, not just in buying (basic or loaded) but also over time so evolutions in the design of software, hardware can be bought or offered every year. Wouldn't mind paying for it. My Wisper is such a great aquisition that I would like to keep it thoroughly up to date with all improvements.
 

fishingpaul

Esteemed Pedelecer
Sep 24, 2007
874
86
under £1000 with a less noticeable battery,water bottle styled batteries are good or something that looks like a saddlebag ,also less than 25 kilos, and 25 mile plus range also with 18- 19mph off road switch,it must be a good climber,perhaps you could supply a kit with a frame mounted battery.
 

TomB

Pedelecer
Feb 2, 2008
72
0
or, battery with built in charger. could charge it anywhere using a standard kettle lead or usb lead...

or, built in motion sensitive alarm.
 
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ElephantsGerald

Pedelecer
Mar 17, 2008
168
0
Herefordshire, HR2
Based on the current 905SE (as I assume thats where you'd be starting from):
  • Easier to ride unpowered (less resistance from the hub motor gears)
  • Built in lights run from the battery
  • Range of power modes (its very hard to ride at less than 10mph with the power on, but fairly horrible to ride with the power off)
  • Cheaper (obviously!!!)
  • Lighter
  • Some way of protecting the controls/handlebars/saddle when turned upside down
  • A wider range in the gearing (7 in total is fine, but a lower low and a higher high would be nice)
  • A range of frame sizes
  • A lighter, cheaper, smaller, faster, more portable charger
  • Absolutely impenetrable, un-puncturable tyres
  • A chain guard
  • A small emergency battery to get you home if the main one runs out on you.
Regards,

Elephants
 

Howard

Pedelecer
Jul 8, 2008
73
0
I wish your 905se was £995 then I'd have bought it through the cycle2work scheme.

You are losing sales since the scheme tops out at 1k.
Hi Seataltea

Just to let you know - and others who would like to buy the 905se on the cycle to work scheme - you CAN do it. From the FAQ section on www.cyclescheme.co.uk:

'What happens when employees want bikes costing over £1000?

However, if your employer has decided to limit bike sales to £1000 (retail price including VAT) you can buy safety equipment in excess of this amount and pay the surplus directly to the bike shop who will make the quote out for exactly £1000.'

I have just ordered my Wisper 905se through the cycle to work scheme from The Electric Transport Shop in London - they have given me a quote for £997, and I am paying the difference (£203).

I realise not all cycle schemes are the same, but please don't be put off if the bike costs over £1000 as it is probably still possible to get the bike on the cycle scheme if you are willing to pay the difference.

Cheers,

Howard
 

moon

Pedelecer
May 24, 2008
89
0
I'd also like a low power mode for use in slow moving traffic etc, a smaller frame as I can just about get on and off mine easily when I wear trainers with a fairly high sole, a chain guard, a rear disk brake and better brake cables as mine always need tightening.

Oh and a range of bike accessories, I have recently bought one of these for my rear carrier




:)
 

JohnInStockie

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 10, 2006
1,048
1
Stockport, SK7
Mainly A range of frame sizes (Im 5'11" and my wife is 4'11" meaning its a struggle to get 2 bikes with the same battery/charger)

A bike that can be ridden as well as a normal bike without power.

Reliability of the motor drive

A battery with a 'piggy-back' mode like some of the high end LED Light batteries have, that way you could either use a small or large (and heavier) battery.

Option to upgrade the built in lights to 'high quality' lights (mine is 720 lumens at the front = car headlight) that run from the main battery.

weight without battery of any type under 16 Kg

Option of roller or hydraulic rim brakes (rollers may not be as powerful, but they never need adjusting)

Easy to remove wheels for puncture repair, and a solid tyre option for those who hate punctures

A price close to the stupid Trading Standards £1,000 cyclescheme limit (as the basic bike)

off-road capable/switchable


Can I order 2 when you have this :)
 

aeromys

Finding my (electric) wheels
Jul 8, 2008
9
0
.....I realise not all cycle schemes are the same, but please don't be put off if the bike costs over £1000 as it is probably still possible to get the bike on the cycle scheme if you are willing to pay the difference.

Cheers,

Howard
Seconded - I'm just about to do exactly the same with Halfords :)