Which Kit?

[John L]

Once the order is placed BMSB will confirm despatch, Fed Ex takes about 4 days. 2 -3 weeks after they( Fed Ex )will send out an Invoice/ demand for duty and carrier fee, min £30 couldn't say what the max might be.
Break sensors needed if you fit the throttle, just in case it sticks on open.
I had to upgrade to a 180 rotor fitting as the caliper on 160 hits the hub.
132 will be ok, you should be able to stretch the drop outs easily for 3mm.

Hmmm the oxydrive is looking more attractive all the time as there was a gap in cost of 190e but if I have to pay duty and possible other courier fees it would narrow the gap considerably.

That kit has a 135mm hub as well. I see why I might need to use a 180mm rotor. Presumably I'd need an adapter?

There is definitely more than enough play in the forks to accommodate 3mm. The 36v 14a oxydrive battery will have less power but I'm not really interested in maximising speed. If I can squeeze 80km out of it once in a while that would be great.

I'll search the forum for views/problems with the oxydrive. Is there anything obvious I should be aware of in relation to this kit?

John

 

[John L]

You could always buy from the UK and get quicker delivery. Example:
http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?cdkit

Yeah I think buying from the UK might be a good option even if a little dearer. I have looked at the wooshbikes cdkits and will consider one if a rear hub motor proves to be a problem (I don't think it will tho). I'm hesitant about a cd kit as it puts so much pressure on the chain/derailleur etc and I believe changing gears half way up a hill can be problematic. Its a tidy looking set up tho.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

The problem is that none of those kits can hold a light to that kit from BMSB, never mind the cost.

 

[Nealh]

Source the battery here in the UK, Eclipse are a good choice.
Buy the motor bare and get a LBS to build your wheel.
I got my KT comtroller kit from PSWPower and paid no duty etc.

 

[Nealh]

The 09 sine wave controller kit and q128c bare comes to £206.28 delivered, duty will be about £30.

 

[John L]

The problem is that none of those kits can hold a light to that kit from BMSB, never mind the cost.

I hear you Tomorrow I'll check out Nealh's suggestion about buying a bare motor and sourcing the rest elsewhere.

 

[John L]

The 09 sine wave controller kit and q128c bare comes to £206.28 delivered, duty will be about £30.

Thanks for that Is the 09 sine wave controller kit also from BMSB or is it from PSWPower? I had a quick look at Eclipsebikes and the battery choices and prices aren't too bad. I'll have a good look tomorrow and try to figure out which battery would serve me best.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

You can buy a 48v battery from BMSB that has a 20A controller in it. That controller has waterproof connectors. You just join the wires. It has the disadvantage that it's more difficult to deal with the extra length of wires.

If you buy a separate battery from Eclipse and controller from PSW, you need to install the controller in a box or bag. That has the advantage that you can stick all the extra length of wire in there too, but it has the disadvantage of the extra installation.

Both controllers have exactly the same functions, power, display and controls.

 

[Nealh]

The 09 dolphin sinewave controller kit (BMSB) will fit the 09 dolphin battery Eclipse. Swings and roundabout's the extra weight and cost from BMSB will incur more duty from FedEx and extra postage from BMSB.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

My last BMSB order included a battery. It slipped through the net. My $330 Xiongda order ended up at about £23 for duty and handling.

 

[Nealh]

My last BMSB order included a battery. It slipped through the net.

You do have the midas touch though.

 

[John L]

Thanks guys

I've been having a look at the options. In Ireland anything above €22 imported from outside the EU is liable to 21% VAT on the total cost of getting to Ireland (ie cost of item plus shipping and insurance if needed). Anything over €150 is subject to duty at the applicable rate (I can't find what rate, if any, would apply to ebike parts).

So buying all items from BMSB including shipping and VAT but not duty or other handling charges comes to €845 or £744!!

Buying the bare motor from BMSB, the KT controller plus LCD3 and dual Hall sensor (not sure if I've picked the right option - KT36/48SVPRD-20A ) from PSWPower and the battery from Eclipsebikes (48V 11.6Ah Lithium Ion Frame Battery 29E Samsung Cells + 2A Li Ion Charger) comes to €604 or £531!

No contest really. My only doubt is the ability of my LBS to build the wheel. Not many ebikes in Ireland and mainly in specialised shops. Am I pushing it to think that I might be able to build it myself?

Its all very complicated and chaotic using either option. The oxydrive with no complications is still attractive even if its not a match for the Q128c setup. I'd probably lose the potential to go faster for longer but the range should be adequate for my needs. Hmmm decisions decisions...

 

[Deleted member 4366]

Building the wheel is the same as a normal bike wheel, but the motor has a different axle, so, depending on what type of stand he uses (if any) it might not fit.

 

[Nealh]

The PSWPower Kt kit has a lot of wiring so not as neat as the BMSB 4-1 plug and play controller kit. For my KT kit used 5 or 9mm spiral wrap to neaten up the wire runs then in to a rear under saddle bag.
Another aside my BMSB controller kit didn't last long as the controller smoked it self, one or the caps blew and left fibre every where. I 've still got it but to intricate for me to repair if repairable, though might have a go at it one day if I find a cap to replace.

 

[Nealh]

30Q Cells are better then 29E.

 

[John L]

Building the wheel is the same as a normal bike wheel, but the motor has a different axle, so, depending on what type of stand he uses (if any) it might not fit.

I might pop into him over the weekend to see if he feels he can do it.

 

[John L]

30Q Cells are better then 29E.

Oh right I see now that there is one with 30Q cells. A little dearer. There does seem to be a lot of wiring hanging out of the that controller ok!

 

[STEVEMANFA]

John, I have another bike with the oxydrive kit on, never had one problem with it.

 

[John L]

John, I have another bike with the oxydrive kit on, never had one problem with it.

That's good to know Steve thanks. I've sent Andrew an email about the kit. I've also enquired about a woosh package. I'm trying to simplify things by getting it altogether in one package.

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[Woosh]

hello John,

I haven't got a cassette motor in 29".