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Two boys die in "ebike" accident: Cardiff riot broke out after 'police prevented parents seeing fatal crash victims', close relative says
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Just like pretty much every city centre in the UK.
In WE Glasgow majority are deliveroo on powerful DIY rear hubs, just eat drivers (mainly takeaway), tend to use cars in my experience.
You're assuming that all car delivery drivers have suitable insurance for working using their car...I doubt the majority of them do so if you get knocked down by guy delivering a pizza who's not insured...
Ely: Crash death bike was early birthday present for victim
Ely: Crash death bike was early birthday present for victim
Harvey Evans and best friend Kyrees Sullivan died in a crash while riding an electric bike.
www.bbc.co.uk
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A fatal injury doesn't need much speed , last year I think it was poss the year before a guy died form falling off his ebike , it was a head injury I believe. I can't say where but at the time I did post it on the forum.
you should all move to Gloucester
Cyclist suffered several stab wounds after collision with car
The incident happened in Podsmead at 9.30pm last night (September 21)
www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk
i give the cars as much room as they give me about 2.5mm fkn stupid cow in a learning lesion was brake testing me so went right up its ass in a 30mph zone and my tyre left a mark on the bumper but that close there is no wind resistance and just a bit of rubbing to the paint on the bumper
and all the cars keep ringing there bells at me for some reason as dont like my going from pavement to road going 35mph straight in front of them
got 108 miles on the clock for this month on the bosch app so over 200 on komoot in real miles and im still not dead.
From the above linked article:
The aunt of Harvey Evans, 15, said the teen loved e-bikes and scooters and the present had been bought for his birthday next month.
Ms Murphy said that Harvey loved motorbikes and was an experienced rider.
"His dad used to take him off road biking up the mountains every week since he was three-years-old."
That is indeed a tragedy, I have a 13yr old son bike mad and cannot begin to understand how the families must feel.
They must focus on why the crash happened, was it the cops following them or just dangerous driving or a combination?
Either way, helmets would've probably saved their lives, that one is on the parents/guardians.
The aunt of Harvey Evans, 15, said the teen loved e-bikes and scooters and the present had been bought for his birthday next month.
Ms Murphy said that Harvey loved motorbikes and was an experienced rider.
"His dad used to take him off road biking up the mountains every week since he was three-years-old."
That is indeed a tragedy, I have a 13yr old son bike mad and cannot begin to understand how the families must feel.
They must focus on why the crash happened, was it the cops following them or just dangerous driving or a combination?
Either way, helmets would've probably saved their lives, that one is on the parents/guardians.
Cyclists get run over and stabbed too? Bonus!you should all move to Gloucester
Cyclist suffered several stab wounds after collision with car
The incident happened in Podsmead at 9.30pm last night (September 21)
Bring it on! You should get a leather jacket like mine, it's more stab (and abrasion) proof - especially the double layer in front of the chest, which also keeps cold air out when cycling. It never gets sweaty, because my bike is set up to require zero effort. 
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so his aunt got him a 5k or 8k bike as thats the price for the top model and can do 50mph plus and is 50kg on its own with 2ppl on it and no crash helmets they just pushed there luck to far as if plod did stop them that bike would be taken of of them as would have to prove they had insurance to get it back from the police so only option was to run.
We don't know what model they were riding yet but yes the likelihood is that it was illegal.
However if the young driver was experienced on motorbikes off road from a young age it makes it more likely that external factors were involved, eg them panicking after cops trail them?
All speculation, the only take away here is wear a helmet (which I currently don't but will do as of weekend).
However if the young driver was experienced on motorbikes off road from a young age it makes it more likely that external factors were involved, eg them panicking after cops trail them?
All speculation, the only take away here is wear a helmet (which I currently don't but will do as of weekend).
Some Surron bikes are sold with DVLA registration and number plates, but looking at the videos, I don't see a number plate on that bike. The rest are not road legal as sold:
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Two riders could have been above the weight limit of all those bikes?
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those bikes are not road legal in any way the batts are 60v have no peddles so a electric moto x bike.
sure you might be able to register it and get it road legal but then you need insurance and have to wear a helmet.
you get what you pay for and if some twat crashes in to me head on with no helmet on say a scooter then there dead, a guy tried to punch me in the face with my new helmet it must have broken every bone in his hand and did not leave a scratch
sure you might be able to register it and get it road legal but then you need insurance and have to wear a helmet.
you get what you pay for and if some twat crashes in to me head on with no helmet on say a scooter then there dead, a guy tried to punch me in the face with my new helmet it must have broken every bone in his hand and did not leave a scratch
A fatal injury doesn't need any speed at all. Toppling over sideways while stationary is all that is necessary for a fatal head injury if the head collides with the ground a lamp post or other immoveable object. It's exactly this sort of low/no speed accident that a cycle helmet will protect against.
I got this injury 5 weeks ago when I fell off my ebike stationary outside my flat. It had just got dark and was coming back from shop with cpl bottles wine in backpack along with the locks making it quite heavy.
I was closer to edge of pavement than I though in the light, stepped off the bike and my foot missed the pavement, by time foot hit the road it felt like there was someone behind me grabbing on the backpack pulling me to the ground.
Nope, just gravity, a heavy backpack and a 30kg ebike falling on you. I was lucky no real damage done although I still feel it.
So yes, wear a helmet!
I was closer to edge of pavement than I though in the light, stepped off the bike and my foot missed the pavement, by time foot hit the road it felt like there was someone behind me grabbing on the backpack pulling me to the ground.
Nope, just gravity, a heavy backpack and a 30kg ebike falling on you. I was lucky no real damage done although I still feel it.
So yes, wear a helmet!
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When police are chasing someone they have blue lights and sirens going. The video shows this was not the case so the police were telling the truth when they say they were not chasing. It does seem that they were following behind the bike but that is very different from a chase. Police can and should follow people if they think they may be acting illegally. The laws of this country are there for a reason and the police are there to uphold those laws. They aren't perfect but they are better than many other police forces around the world. The bike as described does seem to be a long way over the power limit for legal use on UK roads, byways or trails, in fact anywhere except private land. That being the case it was 100% correct for the police to follow them so they could see more clearly whether or not it was an illegal motor vehicle being used on the public highway. It seems to me based on what we know so far and the video evidence that the police have done nothing wrong.
The basic Surron if you want to call it that requires a CBT16 licence , It is a moped. Can do 30mph and requires tin lids, they took a chance and lost . A lesson for all who wish to break the law to think about.
The clip on the news with the plod van following shows the moped being ridden very fast by twist grip no peddaling at all involved as the bikes don't have them.
The clip on the news with the plod van following shows the moped being ridden very fast by twist grip no peddaling at all involved as the bikes don't have them.
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A twist and go throttle is completely legal on a kit ebike as shown on this very site with the statement from the department for transport.
More importantly its the safest way of controlling an ebike in urban stop/start traffic because the rider has full control of where and when the power of the motor is activated.
As for direct drive hub motors as large as they are they can be anything from 200W to 2000W that is dictated by the controller not the motor itself. They don't have any internal gearing so have to be over-sized to compensate for lack of gearing. I watched a courier on such a ebike on youtube the battery was 800Wh approx and he worked from 5pm to 11pm so 6 hours on one charge. That is about 130Wh per hour being used. He pedalled where he can but used the throttle for hills and moving away from junctions plus getting up to speed quickly. These direct drive motors are incredibly reliable because they lack any mechanical parts inside, the only moving parts are really the bearings in the axles. This makes them the ideal choice for couriers doing thousands of miles per month. It's the right tool for the job.
There is no reason for these bikes to be illegal but that is not to say they aren't its whether they assist beyond 15.5mph. So called legal Bosch mid-drive motors can pull around 800W climbing hills. This is well beyond courier ebikes typically even using direct drive hub motors. Those Bosch motors are delivering around 100Nm of torque. At best direct drive motors are delivering probably 40-45Nm of torque and using much less continuous current than those Bosch motors. It really depends on how they are configured. How on earth would they perform courier duties if the controller was consuming 2000W and the battery was lets say 1200Wh. They would only have about 1/2hr to 40 minutes of runtime. It's just not realistic for the time these bikes operate.
They don't use mid-drive ebikes because they are mechanically complex and unreliable, they snap chains and wear out the drivetrain quickly. It's the wrong product for doing thousands of miles and being depended on.
Incredibly lucky I'd say. Broken bottles would easily slice right through any backpack and straight into your flesh. There have been many cases of people falling with wine bottles and not surviving the horrific injuries they can cause.
So it explains more about the police claim that their van/vehicle wasnt in the same road as the accident.It appears the Police van turned left because it's driver knew of the bollards:
What new CCTV tells us of Cardiff teens' final minutes
The BBC's Dan Johnson maps out the timeline of the moments before the crash in Cardiff on Monday.www.bbc.co.uk
They knew of the bollards, turned so they circumnavigate them, with the intention to continue the case once they'd done so.
It is lie after lie after lie.
Of course we can expect the so called independent complaints committee to rule in favour of the police, as it does 99% of the time.
what would you do if you were the police? Ignore the boys and their bike?
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