That is a good question.
I also wonder how two teenagers from deprived community can afford a bike worth £5k. And why they were followed in first place...
Two boys die in "ebike" accident: Cardiff riot broke out after 'police prevented parents seeing fatal crash victims', close relative says
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I also wonder how two teenagers from deprived community can afford a bike worth £5k. And why they were followed in first place...
That might be the average House price in Ely, Cambridgeshire;
House Prices in Ely
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But not the average for house prices in the Ely area of Cardiff.
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" £218,606That might be the average House price in Ely, Cambridgeshire;
House Prices in Ely
The average price for a property in Ely is £388,071 over the last year. Explore Rightmove house prices to find out how much properties sold for in Ely.
But not the average for hose prices in the Ely area of Cardiff.
11% since 2019 "
House Prices in Ely
The average price for a property in Ely is £205,878 over the last year. Explore Rightmove house prices to find out how much properties sold for in Ely.
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Judging by the videos, between 30 and 40 mph? This lamp post is on a straight bit of road:
Video that sparked riots shows 'cops chasing teens on bike' moments before crash
SHOCKING CCTV shows a police van following two teens on a bike moments before a fatal crash that sparked a riot in Cardiff. Violence broke out overnight after Kyrees Sullivan, 16, and Harvey Evans,…
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If it's this lamp post (properties nearby look similar in this street view), the road is slightly downhill after the bollards, and they could have been accelerating?
Also the same type of white van, similar bushes.
Also the same type of white van, similar bushes.
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so who owns the bike? As for why they were followed, I suppose it was just bad luck. Apparently, they spotted the police van in the distance so they did a U-turn. The police started to follow them until the boys outwitted them by leading the police to a barred road.
You can see cars parking in the street. Did they ride on the pavement?Judging by the videos, between 30 and 40 mph? This lamp post is on a straight bit of road:
It seems likely nobody witnessed this happening. There were two riders, and if one or both were panicking they might have lost control of the bike's balance? Or perhaps they mounted the pavement to avoid a large vehicle approaching, but were going too fast and lost control? Maybe they mounted the pavement intending to hide in a friend's house?
Cardiff riot: Ely death crash witnesses sought by police watchdog
UK government created conditions that led to Cardiff riots, says Mark Drakeford
Exclusive: Welsh first minister blames unrest that followed deaths of two boys on ‘13 years of erosion’ under Conservatives
Cardiff riot: Welsh government announces community initiative after riot triggered by teenagers' deaths
The deaths of the two boys triggered hours of violence and disorder after word spread on social media a marked police van had been following the pair minutes before the crash.
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Vigil planned to pay tribute to boys who died in Ely crash
It comes as First Minister Mark Drakeford is set to hold a community meeting to discuss support for the area
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Cardiff riot: Ely death crash witnesses sought by police watchdog
Cardiff riot: Ely death crash witnesses sought by police watchdog
The investigation will establish whether the police were in pursuit of the two boys who died.
www.bbc.co.uk
UK government created conditions that led to Cardiff riots, says Mark Drakeford
Exclusive: Welsh first minister blames unrest that followed deaths of two boys on ‘13 years of erosion’ under Conservatives
Cardiff riot: Welsh government announces community initiative after riot triggered by teenagers' deaths
The deaths of the two boys triggered hours of violence and disorder after word spread on social media a marked police van had been following the pair minutes before the crash.
Cardiff riot: Welsh government announces community initiative after riot triggered by teenagers' deaths
The deaths of the two boys triggered hours of violence and disorder after word spread on social media a marked police van had been following the pair minutes before the crash.
news.sky.com
Vigil planned to pay tribute to boys who died in Ely crash
It comes as First Minister Mark Drakeford is set to hold a community meeting to discuss support for the area
First Minister to chair community meeting following Ely riots
It comes as First Minister Mark Drakeford is set to hold a community meeting to discuss support for the area
www.walesonline.co.uk
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The first video released, does appear to show a Police van following the eBike.
It now transpires, from the other Video released later, that the eBike was initially headed towards the Police van and that it turned around to ride away from the Police van coming towards them. Thus the first video with the Police van very close behind the eBike.
Then another video was released of some seconds later with the eBike dissapearing into the distance with the Police van a long way behind, i.e. not 'chasing' the eBike which is what the Police initially said.
So why were the the other videos showing that the Police van was not apparently not 'chasing' the eBike only released or made available some time later ?
It now transpires, from the other Video released later, that the eBike was initially headed towards the Police van and that it turned around to ride away from the Police van coming towards them. Thus the first video with the Police van very close behind the eBike.
Then another video was released of some seconds later with the eBike dissapearing into the distance with the Police van a long way behind, i.e. not 'chasing' the eBike which is what the Police initially said.
So why were the the other videos showing that the Police van was not apparently not 'chasing' the eBike only released or made available some time later ?
It appears the Police van turned left because it's driver knew of the bollards:
What new CCTV tells us of Cardiff teens' final minutes
The BBC's Dan Johnson maps out the timeline of the moments before the crash in Cardiff on Monday.
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I doubt that the video clips circulating publicly were released officially
I was driving in the Cardiff town centre today, I do normally avoid this, I just hate all the traffic congestion. Cycling is so much easier, but I had to drop someone off to visit a clinic.
On my journey in the car I saw a number of eBikes, mostly Deliver*** riders on what looked like DIY converted bikes.
All were being driven on throttles, which is completly acceptable since presumably the riders had put their bikes through the appropriate certification process.
Around 50% had dinner plate size rear hub motors, which its possible were over the 250W limit. But thats OK as well you can buy 250W stickers on eBay.
Who cares, no consequences .....................
On my journey in the car I saw a number of eBikes, mostly Deliver*** riders on what looked like DIY converted bikes.
All were being driven on throttles, which is completly acceptable since presumably the riders had put their bikes through the appropriate certification process.
Around 50% had dinner plate size rear hub motors, which its possible were over the 250W limit. But thats OK as well you can buy 250W stickers on eBay.
Who cares, no consequences .....................
I've read reports on this forum many times about delivery riders using dinner plate sized motored bikes to deliver food to dinner plates, but in my area have yet to see one - they all use cars.
How to stop illegal ebikes safely (for the [uncooperative] rider) in a tricky problem. When conversions and modifications are outlawed, and all electric vehicles are fitted with kill switches wielded by coppers and hackers, it won't be.
Maybe the Police can use this microwave gun to disable ebike electronics?
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A thousand people gather for an emotional vigil for two boys killed in Cardiff crash that caused furious riots on the streets of Ely as police watchdog appeals for witnesses
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Great uncle of teenager killed in Cardiff crash hits out at police as vigil held
John O’Driscoll, Harvey Evans’s great-uncle said the police ‘should have stopped’ when they saw the two teenage boys were not wearing helmets
www.independent.co.uk
People gather for vigil for two boys killed in Cardiff crash
The deaths of Kyrees Sullivan, 16, and Harvey Evans, 15, in Ely on Monday evening sparked a riot that led to nine arrests and 15 officers being injured.
Great uncle of teenager killed in Cardiff crash hits out at police as vigil held
John O’Driscoll, Harvey Evans’s great-uncle said the police ‘should have stopped’ when they saw the two teenage boys were not wearing helmets
Great uncle of teenager killed in Cardiff crash hits out at police as vigil held
John O’Driscoll, Harvey Evans’s great-uncle said the police ‘should have stopped’ when they saw the two teenage boys were not wearing helmets
www.independent.co.uk
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