Thank you Kudos 4 Redbridge!

smudger1956

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I am really 'gutted' for want of a better word..not being able to attend....looked like a good turn out, and the weather was kind.
On on philosophical note.....probably saved myself a lot of money........;)
 

Electrifying Cycles

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That was what I was referring to hence me thinking 250% for bikes with derailleur gears. It was a long day at Redbridge had me questioning my sanity :D
 

RobF

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Electrifying Cycles

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Thanks, normally review our brands throughout the year and so much choice with Bosch so nice to keep an eye out. Looking at Bosch's own website is always interesting to see all the different brands.
 

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saneagle

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Nice one Dave, it really shows people who have not ridden the circuit just how good it is as a venue for testing bikes.;)
 

dmcgoldrick

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At the end of the show, I did a lap on my Rocky Mountain with Saneagle on his Kraken CST. I was trying out my new camera, which is one of these:
HD 1080P Waterproof Sports Helmet Camera DV Action DVR Video Camcorder Recorder | eBay
You have to select 1080P on Youtube to get the best quality.

The noise from my bike is mainly from the knobbly tyres.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nRP1oBMZkI

Edit: This post is from D8veh on Saneagle's login (I'm at his house on his computer)
thanks for demonstrating what an un-restricted high watt usage hub powered bike is capable of. looks like its not necessary to pedal such a machine even on up slope. looks more comparable to an electric scooter than a 'pedelec' bike and should obviously be classed at least as a moped with mot tax and insurance etc if used in public places......well outside uk pedelec legislation.....take care.......
inexpensive camera video capture looks reasonable. thanks for sharing
regards
 
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thanks for demonstrating what an un-restricted high watt usage hub powered bike is capable of. looks like its not necessary to pedal such a machine even on up slope. looks more comparable to an electric scooter than a 'pedelec' bike and should obviously be classed at least as a moped with mot tax and insurance etc if used in public places......well outside uk pedelec legislation.....take care.......
inexpensive camera video capture looks reasonable. thanks for sharing
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No, it's quite legal. It's the same motor as the Kudos Ariba. Theirs has TOPs (Torque Optimisation Program) which increases torque at low speed for better climbing. Ours has BOTTOMS (Boost OF The Torque On Minimum Speed), which works in a similar way. The slower you go, the more torque you get. Even the 200w Powabyke Euro would be able to climb those hills without pedalling, because its motor also produces high torque at low speed with low power. Normally Steve would be pedalling, but he had to go fairly slow because my bike only does 15mph before power cut-off. Bikes with throttles have a big advantage over pedal-only bikes because you get the choice to pedal or not. This sometimes makes those without them think it's a bit unfair.
 
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jackhandy

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Steve - did your speedict record that Redbridge run?

It'd be useful to know the distance & Ah used with you doing that minimum amount of pedalling; as a benchmark.
 

dmcgoldrick

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No, it's quite legal. It's the same motor as the Kudos Ariba. Theirs has TOPs (Torque Optimisation Program) which increases torque at low speed for better climbing. Ours has BOTTOMS (Boost OF The Torque On Minimum Speed), which works in a similar way. The slower you go, the more torque you get. Even the 200w Powabyke Euro would be able to climb those hills without pedalling, because its motor also produces high torque at low speed with low power. Normally Steve would be pedalling, but he had to go fairly slow because my bike only does 15mph before power cut-off. Bikes with throttles have a big advantage over pedal-only bikes because you get the choice to pedal or not. This sometimes makes those without them think it's a bit unfair.
sorry my mistake,so its not this bike then ....Carrera Kraken with mods 500 W Bafang CST motor with 30 amp controller, 20 ah battery & Speedict Mercury .....? could you please advise us of the technical spec of these legal ebikes that climb at that speed without pedalling...i have only ever seen german s class capable of that...

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It's got a label on it that says 250W, so it's as legal as yours and all the other ones with 250w labels on.
 

dmcgoldrick

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It's got a label on it that says 250W, so it's as legal as yours and all the other ones with 250w labels on.
thanks for clarifying........my original comments stand......please dont mislead the readers....
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Not sure what you mean. How do you think I'm misleading anybody?
 

mountainsport

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At the end of the show, I did a lap on my Rocky Mountain with Saneagle on his Kraken CST. I was trying out my new camera, which is one of these:
HD 1080P Waterproof Sports Helmet Camera DV Action DVR Video Camcorder Recorder | eBay
You have to select 1080P on Youtube to get the best quality.

The noise from my bike is mainly from the knobbly tyres.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nRP1oBMZkI

Edit: This post is from D8veh on Saneagle's login (I'm at his house on his computer)
Hi Steve,

A lovely video and also by displaying to us your completed track test run,dont get me wrong but to me it is also relaxing and comforting to watch. The person who was riding along side you,what was he riding in terms of specs? Again,great video.

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