Prices of the electricity we use to charge

AndyBike

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So we can pretend we are net zero and nuekleer free! Ha ha.
I'm surprised that the critics seem to think these things happen overnight, and a year down the line the tech will be such that you can drive across Europe on a single charge, with the heater on full, the radio blasting and 4 passengers plus luggage.

It will probably take EV as long as it has taken the petrol engine to reach those heady figures. 50 years or thereabouts.

To suggest otherwise are just the ramblings of the intellectually challenged.
 
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Woosh

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Consultation launched over petrol car phase-out

"Last month, Ford said the UK government's mandate to produce and sell more electric vehicles (EVs) "just doesn't work" without demand. "

"Labour has said it intends to reinstate the 2030 target as part of its wider commitments to climate change policy, but it will consult on how the "direction of travel" for the policy will work. "
I think the problem is legacy automakers don't have the money to invest in new plants and shutdown old ones.
We in the west (and also in Japan and South Korea) finance our investments with borrowing. We loathe any project that involves government subsidies, causing opposition to projects that are not low hanging fruits. We load the cost of financing onto the cost of production so much that makes our products uncompetitive. We are at a disadvantage competing against directed economies like communist China where the financing cost is shared between the state and investors.
I'm surprised that the critics seem to think these things happen overnight, and a year down the line the tech will be such that you can drive across Europe on a single charge, with the heater on full, the radio blasting and 4 passengers plus luggage.

It will probably take EV as long as it has taken the petrol engine to reach those heady figures. 50 years or thereabouts.

To suggest otherwise are just the ramblings of the intellectually challenged.
Not overnight but in a couple of years. The cost of LFP cells is currently $53/kwh, making a 70kwh pack cost less than an average ICE motor. The main issue facing European automakers is they pay typically twice the price Chinese competitors for their battery packs and labour.
 
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flecc

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I think the problem is legacy automakers don't have the money to invest in new plants and shutdown old ones.
We in the west (and also in Japan and South Korea) finance our investments with borrowing. We loathe any project that involves government subsidies, causing opposition to projects that are not low hanging fruits. We load the cost of financing onto the cost of production so much that makes our products uncompetitive. We are at a disadvantage competing against directed economies like communist China where the financing cost is shared between the state and investors.

Not overnight but in a couple of years. The cost of LFP cells is currently $53/kwh, making a 70kwh pack cost less than an average ICE motor. The main issue facing European automakers is they pay typically twice the price Chinese competitors for their battery packs and labour.
We are never going to be able to compete with the Orient, so our western manufacturers are on the right lines by going upmarket with fewer sales at high margins. Our consumers seem to like that too, few ever bought Citroen 2CVs and few buy Dacia now.

That fewer cars policy suits governments too, but they are being schizophrenic by wanting ever higher percentages of EVs. The two cannot happen in a free market, it can only happen with enforcement by physical prevention of i.c. ownership, new or second hand, rather like the rigidly controlled and limited car ownership in Singapore.

But any government introducing that had better lock themselves into office, since they'd never get elected again.
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Rocket scientist’s cast iron pan threatens to topple Le Creuset

"It is claimed that on a gas hob, the FireUp pan technology increases heating efficiency to 80 per cent from 30 per cent."



 
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"In the regular oven, the chicken took 35 minutes to cook and used 1.05 kWh of electricity, working out at a cost of 35.7p.

Cooking the chicken in the air fryer took 20 minutes and used 0.43 kWh of electricity, at a cost of 14.6p.

The potato took approximately an hour to cook in the oven, using 1.31 KWh, at a cost of 44.5p.

In the air fryer, the potato took 35 minutes, using 0.55 kWh of electricity, costing 18.1p. "
 

lenny

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The new climate gold rush: Scrubbing carbon from the sky
"This summer, Bill Gates huddled in London with representatives of some of the world's wealthiest people, including Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, SoftBank founder Masayoshi Son and Prince al-Waleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia.
They were evaluating their joint investments in companies that could help the world combat climate change. Among the businesses in their portfolio, four stood out as having a particularly audacious goal: They were working to strip carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, for a profit."


https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/the-new-climate-gold-rush-scrubbing-carbon-from-the-sky/ar-AA1wqbDQ
 
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lenny

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Solar, EVs and a big exit from coal: 2024’s good climate news

Numerous advancements have been made globally to combat climate change, including record solar energy installations, Norway's push for electric vehicles, US policies supporting EV infrastructure, and successful climate litigation by elderly Swiss women. Cities are also enhancing resilience against climate impacts with innovative adaptation projects.
 
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Rocket scientist’s cast iron pan threatens to topple Le Creuset

"It is claimed that on a gas hob, the FireUp pan technology increases heating efficiency to 80 per cent from 30 per cent."



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"The rocket-inspired fins create an oven-like effect and improve heating efficiency by up to 80%."


And make the pans far more difficult and awkward to wash up after cooking.
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lenny

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"Why are UK electricity bills so expensive?

I recently built a website that breaks down the cost of a UK electricity bill."


 
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SRS

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Since we all use electricity to charge our e-bikes, I thought I'd post this here as well:

Something very close to home, FUEL PRICES.

For those of you what dont yet know the new prices from April 1st, I've received mine:

I'm electricity only and my current month bill for this 20th January to 20th February is £196.19 including VAT.

Exactly the same bill after the 1st April increase will be £306.87 including VAT.

That's up 56.41%.

I'm one of the fortunate few who won't be bothered in any way by this, but I'm well aware that these sort of costs will be disastrous for many. I can foresee many elderly and vulnerable people dying of hypothermia next winter if the government doesn't do something far more drastic than their present inadequate relief plans.
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The government needs to set up a body that can cap UK energy prices so that we don’t have extortionate consumer prices coupled with massive energy company profits. They can also take a look at the rip off standing charges. My electric bill is £50 a month averaged and a good part of that is supply fees.
 

flecc

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It's not about strength, it's about the stupidity of the multiplicity of those grooves and angles trapping soiling for a miniscule saving of energy, more notional than actual.

Clearly a boffin who doesn't do the washing up, no doubt his wife does that while he dreams up more crackpot ideas.
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Woosh

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"The rocket-inspired fins create an oven-like effect and improve heating efficiency by up to 80%."
so the guy increases the radiative surface and claim it saves fuel? I can understand why he claims it heats faster for a short moment but energy efficient? Not. The old pot is perfect for slow roast in the oven.
 
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MikelBikel

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We are never going to be able to compete with the Orient, so our western manufacturers are on the right lines by going upmarket with fewer sales at high margins. Our consumers seem to like that too, few ever bought Citroen 2CVs and few buy Dacia now.

That fewer cars policy suits governments too, but they are being schizophrenic by wanting ever higher percentages of EVs. The two cannot happen in a free market, it can only happen with enforcement by physical prevention of i.c. ownership, new or second hand, rather like the rigidly controlled and limited car ownership in Singapore.

But any government introducing that had better lock themselves into office, since they'd never get elected again.
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So by cancelling local elections in favour of "shadow local authorities", Herr Farmer Harmer will Lock in Liebor with Gowlieters, err I mean Mayors, to keep the regional Gau's in line. Verstein?
(Spelt phonetically on purpose, for the "intellectuals" :) )