Prices of the electricity we use to charge

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The REALLY impressive thing to me (but there is more than one) is that it absolutely' knows' what you want when you ask a detailed question. I put 'knows' in quotes because it doesn't know like you and me, but it gets the point almost perfectly, unless you ask the question in too brief a way - but then that would happen to a human too. It is completely tuned to 'getting the point' about what you want. This is a VERY sophisticated thing. Plenty of people are bad at that. I've met loads of them. As a tool of usefulness, producing a completely relevant answer is a fantastic asset for answering queries.

Another impressive achievement is the way in which it operates 'like a human'. It is able to present human-like manners and references. It gets the joke if you tell it one and it gets irony too - another thing plenty of humans can't do. I don't know if you read the link, but at the end of its answer to by two part question, I complimented it on doing a good job, and its reaction was extremely human like.

Then impressed as I was, I wondered what Alan Turing - sometimes called the father of computing, would have thought of its present abilities, and it went off into an interesting musing about that - with full and detailed knowledge of the issues Turing was interested in.

AS a person whose first experience of owning a computer was buying a ZX81 when they first came out in the 1980s and being profoundly disappointed at how useless it was at doing anything helpful, I am amazed at the progress since then - especially at the way these large language models power of usefulness is expanding exponentially. Five years ago, I don't think we could have expected the rate of progress we have seen. The progress in the way the models perform since when Chat-GPT first came out is unexpected - at least to me.
Should 've bought an Acorn BBC - extremely versatile and useful. I even used one at work to drive an electric screwdriver to pre-set the slugs in inductors. It paid for itself in a couple of months. I used another to capture and analyse torque measurement data for car seat recliner mechanisms. Finally, I used one to calculate an analyse our departments work load information. The department was new and hadn't been integrated in to the main computer at Marconi. I wrote all the software myself, which was pretty easy with BBC BASIC.
 
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that report shows how little cost and waste a wind turbine generates comparatively in its lifetime, for about 180 MWH of average output. Carbon footprint of electricity generated by wind is about 11g / kwh over its lifetime. Meanwhile, the same figure for gas is 500g of CO2 per kwh.
How big a carbon footprint do they make when they catch fire in a storm? The scorching on the ground would be huge, as those generators are much bigger than they appear.
 
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How much did that increase its "Carbon Footprint"? :-/
Only a tiny fraction as much as all the fireworks let off yesterday.

And insignificant compared to all the explosives, missiles, drones and aircraft being used in Ukraine, Gaza, Lebanon and Yemen.

Thank goodness that's all being offset by our millions of EVs.
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Always working it round to "Artificial Incipience", da?

Wonder how long they take to build a reactor compared to Flamanville? 15yrs, 10yrs, 8.8yrs
18 were built in 3yrs! :)
 

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fire power :p
 

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Only a tiny fraction as much as all the fireworks let off yesterday.

And insignificant compared to all the explosives, missiles, drones and aircraft being used in Ukraine, Gaza, Lebanon and Yemen.

Thank goodness that's all being offset by our millions of EVs.
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And insignificant compared to all the Eastern emissions..
besides, everyone knows it was a diesel cybertruck, haha :cool:
 

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Toyota's policy is well known. They bet unsuccessfully on hydrogen. They pre-announced their solid state batteries without showing any real product. They have to beat Tesla before they can beat the Chinese and I don't think they can. In the last 15 years, China has created a huge car industry now producing something like 1 car out of 3 in the world.
Toyota can still leapfrog the Chinese on EVs but I don't think they will. Just look at what happened to Nissan and Mitsubishi. Honda will take them over this year.
 

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Utter nonsense, anti Chinese propaganda.

The reason Toyota and Honda have stuck with hybrids is the Japanese long standing mistrust, even hatred of China and fear of China's dominance in rare earths supply.

Note that all the other major Japanese car makers are part owned by the Western motor industry and therefore haven't followed that course.

Note that China has totally gone for EVs to help deal with their very serious air pollution problem, one we all suffer to some degree in urban areas. Nothing whatsoever to do with environmental pollution at rare earth mining sites which is easily dealt with anyway and never suffered by the majority of the population.

Note also that Toyota has a dominant position with i.c. off road vehicles in the third world, where electricity supplies are unreliable or almost non existent. A valuable market which they wish to protect by continuing with i.c. engine manufacture for decades to come.
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18 were built in 3yrs! :)
It's a bit like their weapons. Look great on paper but not so great in real use. Just compare the number of tanks and other pieces of hardware like air defence, missile launchers etc that have been destroyed by Ukrainians. Nuclear reactors in the west are systematically upgraded after each incident like fukushima. Progress made in molten salt reactors are added to old pressurised reactors. Fuels are also upgraded to reduce waste. They take more time but the result is safer reactors. You should read up on the gen 4 reactors and understand why it takes longer than planned.
 

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How big a carbon footprint do they make when they catch fire in a storm? The scorching on the ground would be huge, as those generators are much bigger than they appear.
A rare event though.
 

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Just look at what happened to Nissan and Mitsubishi. Honda will take them over this year.
Still a long way from certain at present, but if it does happen it's almost certainly curtains for Nissan Sunderland, another nail in our coffin.

Honda shut their manufacturing here in 2021 giving these key reasons:

Our leaving the EU.

The EU-Japan agreement to remove duties on each other's home manufactured cars.

A third reason, the switch to EVs, is no longer valid with the current situation in that market, so I can't see then changing their mind and returning to any manufacture here.
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Still a long way from certain at present, but if it does happen it's almost certainly curtains for Nissan Sunderland, another nail in our coffin.

Honda shut their manufacturing here in 2021 giving these key reasons:

Our leaving the EU.

The EU-Japan agreement to remove duties on each other's home manufactured cars.

A third reason, the switch to EVs, is no longer valid with the current situation in that market, so I can't see then changing their mind and returning to any manufacture here.
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Is it not true that Nissan are on record as saying that the Sunderland plant is by far their most efficient plant in the whole portfolio?

This Nissan release says that the Sunderland plant is the most efficient plant in the western world.

If that is true - why would they close it down.

Apparently, they only accept 30% of applicants to work there.

"The Sunderland plant is the most productive automotive plant in the Western world, and while we have great people working for us, the Nissan Production Way is what made this success possible." see below.