Exactly, it's to "wipe out a large number of smaller producers" in the EU. And sell Volkswagens there, coz 3 vw Factories in DE have shut due to No demand for EV's. I vonder von der vhy?
Prices of the electricity we use to charge
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That is completely untrue, you are doing what the Americans do, invent news. Zelensky did not offer to never join NATO before the war started, or make other concessions. Instead he maintained his defiance to the last in his speeches.
Shortly after the war started, the Russian attack nearing Kiev and Ukraine's infrastructure already being destroyed by missiles, he said in a speech broadcast here "We may have to agree to never joining NATO".
That was his first concession on NATO, as I've previously posted, including at the time.
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Chlorinated chicken - Chicken washed in chlorinated water to kill bacteria.
But shock horror says the public at the behest of clickbait news headlines. But of course thats all the attention the public have ever paid to it, and in truth haven't a clue what chlorinated chicken actually is.
All bagged salad in the UK is washed in chlorinated water.
Ever read any shock/horror headlines about chlorinated salad ? Nope, neither have I.
Chlorine-washed chicken vs chlorine-washed salad leaves: what's the difference? - Which? News
Find out why salad leaves are washed in chlorine, and why we're concerned about chicken treated in the same way
Instead of starting with a logical fallacy, argumentum ad populum, or "well, it's done with everything", let's see what gives?
Salad is washed in fruit juice or chlorinated water. But then it's rinsed with clean water!
So, false equivalence fallacy too.
Nice try!
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both use same techniques, kill germs then rinse with clean water. No difference really.Instead of starting with a logical fallacy, argumentum ad populum, or "well, it's done with everything", let's see what gives?
Salad is washed in fruit juice or chlorinated water. But then it's rinsed with clean water!
So, false equivalence fallacy too.
There was a BBC video showing how Dutch tumbled chicken breasts are processed. Did you see it?
Was it this one:
The chicken you are eating could have been injected with beef or pork protein.
That is the claim that will be made by BBC One's Panorama programme on Thursday after a six month investigation into the chicken processing industry in Holland.
Tests carried out for the programme reveal that beef or pork DNA has been found in chicken, including products which are being sold as Halal meat.
It will also reveal that meat processors have been deliberately pumping chicken full of water - and even beef protein - in an effort to make them look bigger, with some Dutch sourced chicken fillets containing as much as 50% added water.
'Red Herring' logical fallacy.
Here's an example for you:
Have you noticed how everyone drinks Filtered, Non-Chlorinated, mineral water rather than what comes out of the tap?
See, it's easy, try thinking critically!
Every glass of tap water you drink has been through 10 people before you
Drink up, everyone else has.
metro.co.uk
Infographic: How Popular Is Bottled Water Around the World?
This chart shows the share of respondents who say they regularly drink bottled water in selected countries (in %)
www.statista.com
In those two examples, I would rather discuss the facts than being argumentative. If you think the glass of water from the tap has come through 10 people then you need to discuss the reasoning. Depending where you live but statistically over time, the water that goes in your glass is mostly from the oceans, not the wee from another person.
I think you're teasing with this 'red herring', hehe.. however
Yes, and I'm mindful about certain demographics who will be ants in the pants about the pork, eek.
Contamination is a no-no, and points to lack of regulatory testing & possibly corruption?
Adulteration is also a no-no, and has been going on since regulators allowed up to 25% water to be injected as part of "Processing"? Remember the bacon that 'melts' in the pan, not on your tongue?
And Processing is the key word. Get it fresh from the farm, well we would if we could! Wouldn't we?
Versatile Pork - Bord Bia | Irish Food Board
Make delicious pork dishes with our easy to follow pork recipe guides. Pork steak, bacon, pork chops and more. Get expert tips and be inspired.
"*Early* Winter ICE Halts Arctic Shipping Traffic *Weeks* Ahead of Schedule". Guess the Arctic didn't get the memo? Is Greta sailing up there to 'how dare you' it? Will Kerry fly up and legislate it away?
'Red Herring' fallacy again.In those two examples, I would rather discuss the facts than being argumentative. If you think the glass of water from the tap has come through 10 people then you need to discuss the reasoning. Depending where you live but statistically over time, the water that goes in your glass is mostly from the oceans, not the wee from another person.
To paraphrase Monty Python "discussion is a series of reasoned propositions with facts, whereas an argument is merely gainsaying whatever the other proposes".
We're not talking about the water "on earth", but the water in the tap.
Chlorinated, Fluoridated (See what I did there?) And.. we Hope it's suffiently filtered, fingers crossed!
So are we getting Groundwater, and if so why is it treated?. Or is it Riverwater, and what is it ye were all saying about English water companies pollution of rivers? Eek!
BBC uncovers 6,000 possible illegal sewage spills in one year
Data from English water firms suggests thousands more sewage spills took place on dry days, including during record 2022 heatwave.
www.bbc.com
Really! I've seen our water processing plant. It's about 120 miles from the sea. How does the seawater come to it? Don't tell me: It evaporates from the sea, travels in clouds to the Welsh mountains, falls as rain, goes down the drains and is collected in reservoirs ready for processing. No wonder it tastes of sheepshit with a bit of drain cleaner thrown in.
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I don't, sod paying for and carrying heavy bottles of water from a supermarket.
My drinking water first falls on the North Downs as rain. It then drains gradually down across and through solid chalk for at least five miles, ending up only 100feet above sea level. There it's at the Addington Deep Well only a few hundred yards from my home where two pumps lift it and fill a large tank on stilts looking like a raised single story office block. After having chlorine and aluminium sulphate added it's pumped to my home and a few thousand others by Australian owned Thames Water, though it's never been near the Thames.
And it tastes bloody awful as it arrives.
But I boil it to make coffee, or to drink it without, I add a squirt of agave nectar to make it palatable, without worrying about the implication that I'm giving ten other people a metaphorical blow job.
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The links below show the huge steam powered beam engines that pumped my water for my first 11 years here before new electric pumps were installed, and the furnaces that powered it all:
Addington Well Pumping Station, Croydon, Greater London | Educational Images | Historic England
A worker stokes the boilers at Addington Well Pumping Station. These boilers drove pumping engines which raised water from the watertable. The pumping station was officially opened on the 2nd of August 1888. The original engine was designed to pump 77,760 gallons of water per hour from the...
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Good one, quite poetic, and very evocative. I hope Fred Dibnah can metaphorically enjoy the Joke up thereI don't, sod paying for and carrying heavy bottles of water from a supermarket.
My drinking water first falls on the North Downs as rain. It then drains gradually down across and through solid chalk for at least five miles, ending up only 100feet above sea level. There it's at the Addington Deep Well only a few hundred yards from my home where two pumps lift it and fill a large tank on stilts looking like a raised single story office block. After having chlorine and aluminium sulphate added it's pumped to my home and a few thousand others by Australian owned Thames Water, though it's never been near the Thames.
And it tastes bloody awful as it arrives.
But I boil it to make coffee, or to drink it without, I add a squirt of agave nectar to make it palatable, without worrying about the implication that I'm giving ten other people a metaphorical blow job.
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The links below show the huge steam powered beam engines at pumped my water for my first 11 years here before new electric pumps were installed, and the furnaces that powered it all:
.Addington Well Pumping Station, Croydon, Greater London | Educational Images | Historic England
A worker stokes the boilers at Addington Well Pumping Station. These boilers drove pumping engines which raised water from the watertable. The pumping station was officially opened on the 2nd of August 1888. The original engine was designed to pump 77,760 gallons of water per hour from the...historicengland.org.uk
About FRED DIBNAH | Steeplejack, Historian, Steam Man & TV Personality | The Fred Dibnah Foundation
The Fred Dibnah and the World of Steam Website is the one-stop site for fans of Fred Dibnah MBE to enjoy unique films, books and information about the famous Boltonian steeplejack.
www.freddibnah.org
They have ongoing "boil all water notices" here in Ireland. And we boil ours for d 'tea, to be sure
.Wow, chlorine and aluminium sulphate for the last few hundred yards to your home. Pipes must be made of tut, no wonder it tastes bad!
(For irish readers, tut means sh..e, with an e, haha)
Irish Water issue updated map of areas affected by boil water notice
The alert includes homes in parts of Fingal, Dublin City Council, South Dublin County Council, parts of Kildare and Dunboyne in Meath
www.irishmirror.ie
I live in Scotland. As such the water is the best in the country.
When i was young, and not knowing the score about Scottish v English water, I poured a glass in a hostel in London
AGGHHHHHHH W. T. F. is this ???. Spat it out.
No surprise our English cousins drink bottled.
But what is surprising is how much you are forced to pay for the stuff coming through the tap. I wouldnt give that to a dog.
Nothing finer than when you are up north, and you dip your waterbottle in one of the streams coming off a mountain.
When i was young, and not knowing the score about Scottish v English water, I poured a glass in a hostel in London
AGGHHHHHHH W. T. F. is this ???. Spat it out.
No surprise our English cousins drink bottled.
But what is surprising is how much you are forced to pay for the stuff coming through the tap. I wouldnt give that to a dog.
Nothing finer than when you are up north, and you dip your waterbottle in one of the streams coming off a mountain.
They've all been replaced round here with MDPE, medium density polyethylene pipe, blue in colour.
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