How many people are using there e-bike off-road?

EddiePJ

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Back from Switzerland, and I'm already planning next years trip.
I'm about to write a short article about the trip and how the bike performed etc, but what I will say is that any doubts that I previously had about the Bosch motor, are now well and truly left behind. The bike was equally as amazing. The one major negative being battery range. Some of the climbs were roughly nine/ten miles long with no let up, and despite only using eco and tour, there wasn't ever much left remaining. Swapping batteries made no difference.
Because of walking during the day with family, I only really managed to ride in the evenings, but still raked up an incredible 54,789' of elevation gain, over roughly 96 miles of continuous climbing over 12 rides. Not bad by anyone's standard. :) Roughly 96 miles of down hill riding wasn't bad either, although along with the bike, my wrists and forearms took some major punishment. With some of the descents approaching ten miles, I did find that on the steeper sections, I was having to stop to shake my arms, to get the circulation working again, and tension gone. I did film a few rides, both downhill, and more unusably going up hill, but stupidly managed to delete all but one road ride. I'll try to upload it at some stage over the next few day. It isn't very exciting though.

Just a taster.

Roughly 9.15 in the evening, with the whole mountain to myself.





The rock face in the distant background, is the one that I came very close to going over. I hadn't realised just how close that I had been until riding on this side of the valley.








Top of a 300 metre near on 50% indicated gradient. Tackled in Sport mode, the only limiting factor being traction on the loose stone surface. I managed about 200 metres before having to get off and push due to the bike just spinning up. Lesson learned... Spd mtb shoes are bloody dangerous and slippery on stone when pushing a bike. The metal cleat just slips.




I also couldn't believe just how many pedelecs that are now out there, when compared with last years trip. Hub drive appeared to be the norm on town bikes, and mid drive on e-mtb's. There was certainly a varied selection, predominantly Trek though, and not one Haibike amongst them. Free Wind or some similar name made up the bulk of the town bikes. I'm afraid that I didn't really pay them any attention to get the exact brand name. Stromner made up the rest of the town bikes. Very nice that they were to.

One very dusty, hard worked KTM Macina Lycan after the last ride of the holiday. I am also glad of having decent quality suspension components, and firmly believe that 'pretend' e-mtb's fitted with low end Suntour forks, and cheapo components, would have made the riding a struggle.



 
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Croxden

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You maybe able to un-delete your pics Eddie. I have been surprised how old some images are still on the card when I have had to this. Depends if you have filled the card and overwritten the files.
 
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EddiePJ

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Odd how photos can give a misleading perspective of gradients. Still sorting through the photos, the three below show my 'little' tumble.

It looks nothing, but after having ridden couple of miles across roots, these seemingly insignificant roots threw me off balance, and down the bank I went.



Still looks reasonably flat.



Until you see it from an altogether different angle. Hardly surprising that I tumbled it down it a bit rapidly, and only stopping when I landed against a tree.



Not a pleasant place to go down. I must admit, that it s**t me up thinking about just how close that I had come to going over the edge. The area has loads of base jumpers, but at least they have a parachute attached to their back. I'd have looked like E.T. :)

 
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EddiePJ

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Back to riding every other evening and weekends again, and it feels pretty dull after the Swiss Alps.
Initially I wasn't so sure about riding on the hard parked road stone trails of the alps, with the loose top surface feeling like riding on marbles. I must have adjusted to it though, as the ride two evening ago in mud, had me feeling very edgy and unsure. I was out with the lad that I ride with two or three times a week, and he left me for dead. II just didn't have the bottle. Normally we would have been pretty evenly matched. This was until we hit a couple of tracks that were the same riding conditions as the Alps. I was gone, and had to wait for him to catch up. I reckon that it must take a very skilled rider to be able to adjust to all conditions without some form of negative reaction. Fair play to anyone that can truthfully do this. I can't.
I was also using dry lube whilst away, and found it superb for the riding conditions that I was in out there, but was surprised by how quickly that it failed when conditions become muddy. I had to stop after about 15 miles, and apply wet lube. Good job that I always carry some.

The evening before going away I had gone out with mate, to try to work out how I had come off so hard in a straight line, on the track that I have previously ridden about 40-50 times with no problem and faster. We could find no reason at all for the crash, which really bugged me. Tonight I discovered why. I was riding exactly the same route, but thankfully about 5mph slower, so about 20mph. All was going well, when suddenly I lost control of the front end, and the handlebars almost snatched from grip. I stayed on, pulled up, and there I was, right at the spot where I had tumbled before. I walked the 20 metres back up the track and discovered the reason. Forestry work had made a 75mm rut that was on the fast line, and at speed, could not be seen. My front tyre had scrapped the edge of it, which through the balance of the bike off, and I suspect that without knowing about it, I over compensated, which threw the front end into lock to lock situation.
This crash had been bugging the hell out of me, as I hate not knowing why or what. At least I know now. Nothing more than rider error. I would say poor obs, but the rut is obscured by a small amount of grass, and can't be seen when riding.





One very harmless looking rut. My tyre marks from this evening are cut into it.

 
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soundwave

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thats what i think when going down hill c mon ed see some back flips ;)
 
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soundwave

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id recommend at least a pint of vodka 1st ;)
 
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soundwave

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you need it off road going 30mph ;)
 

soundwave

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well had the chance to go to the forest today and had a go on the down hill sections and its the fastest way to kill ur self lol.

was fine bar jumping and the the slow twisting bits as i cant flick it around like a normal bike but still managed to keep up with my m8 that can do 100 miles on a road bike and the best bit was going up hill with no effort at all even up the steepest slopes leaving him behind and most assist i used was sport going up hills.

jumps were maxing out the rear sus as was hitting the floor a lot harder cos of the weight but just managed to hold on to it as also builds up speed fast with the extra weight and killing the brake pads slowing it down.

all in done 20 miles up and down hill and had 2 bars left at the end.

vid not mine just so can see what its like ;)
 

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Kinninvie

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Yes,its a long way between pubs (& houses) but a great place to live,safest in the country in the crime tables.
Downside is you have to ride a long way to get anywhere.
Upside is Hamsterley forest is only 5 miles away and has some excellent trails.
I just hope summer starts soon...
 
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mab13

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Newly blinged up with a dash of red here and there...



It got a lot dirtier in Macclesfield Forest today. A lovely ride with over 4000ft of ascent start to finish on a ride of just under 2 hours... with probably 15 mins sat at the top of the world on the bench in the pic just watching the world go by. :)

 
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mab13

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Ps. I don't tend to use strava, but my ride today was (per my Nyon):

Time (moving): 1 hour 25 mins
Distance: 19 miles
Average speed: 13.4mph
Ascent: 4171 ft

Big ascent number... really pleased with that.
 
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mab13

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Here's my Nyon data.

Lowest point is around 550ft and the highest around 1500ft. Spent most of today in Turbo as a bit of an experiment and arrived back home with 1.5 battery bars remaining.

The Nyon portal needs a LOT of work, but may be of interest to some regardless...



 

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