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It's not been widely reported since it isn't big news, since the EU cannot rule on this anyway. Each country can do their own thing and all have commitments to net zero by 2050, some/most certainly will not change their ban. Nor will Britain.
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Not at all. Germany is so often out of step, the other member countries are used to it. You only have to note the way Germany has for decades advocated making friends withRussia, continuing that even now, which is why they were so reluctant to release the Leopard tanks.Think you might be oversimplifying and downplaying situation somewhat flecc.
Why the 2035 combustion engine ban is the wrong way to go
Electrification is a worthy goal, and the EU owes it to its citizens not to proceed recklessly by putting the cart before the horse. If it does, it will ultimately harm both European consumers and the Union as a whole.
There are far more countries and arguments to delay/postpone/cancel ban than you suggest.
There are many facets to arguments as cleay expressed in link.
I don't think there is any desire anywhere to do a U turn with regards electrification, just a realisation that forcing it with
. Of course they are, they all produce ICE cars and are backward on EVs !But those decisions were made in the light of an impending ban, they go early to get a head start on the competition. If the ban changes, is delayed, cancelled their goals may not change but how they get there could.
As I posted what the EU decides doesn't matter, current plans to switch will go ahead. Many makers are far advanced with their plans, it's not only JLR who are stopping IC manufacture earlier than 2030 and Ford Europe have said they won't produce any ICE after 2030. They aren't going to wait a further decade or two to get their investenent back, nor will the banks.
And if all the European countries scrapped their bans it would be the death of COP and the 2050 target.
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Don't forget this is a 2035 ban on ICE engines and there are many earlier national bans such as 2025 in Norway and partially in 2030 for Britain and others.But those decisions were made in the light of an impending ban, they go early to get a head start on the competition. If the ban changes, is delayed, cancelled their goals may not change but how they get there could.
I think you, ll find current thinking is
A) To reword ban from banning ICE to saying compulsory zero emissions (or a %age there of,perhaps 90%)
B)The ban shouldn't stifle and decide the technology. (as it does at moment) but rather politicians should set the standards and let engineers decide how to get there. That could mean no change whatsoever (ie total electrification) or it could mean achieving those goals via some other method. (possibly even a as yet unseen solution)
This is much more along lines of Japan's approach.
I don't think anyone wants to either delay or change the end goals or time scales. But EU (or countries) should not be letting politicians decide the technology.
(eg, its entirely feasible to produce zero (net) emissions via drop in Fuels, but at moment they still produce other pollutants (Nox), if that could be stopped there is no reason for their banning, but under EU legislation as is they would be banned. (zero emissions at exhaust) Both Porsche and Ferrari see this as problematic, and hence lobbying for change). Porsche are already planning on offering 911 with ICE into indefinite future. They must be confident of some changes, either at Government or EU level.
Mazda Europe boss: 2035 ICE ban is ‘a disgrace of the politicians’ – Car Dealer Magazine
Mazda Europe’s CEO Martijn ten Brink has lambasted the European Union’s 2035 ban on internal combustion engined vehicles – describing its implementationcardealermagazine.co.uk
Agreed on that. I can't find a single report substantiating FT.?? Very odd.
While I haven't as yet made the leap into buying an EV, I am thinking that the Japanese approach by Nissan and Toyota has a soundness. And that simplistic bans are just simplistic.. They recognise that the world will not be able to go fully electric in one fell swoop, and there will be laggards and front runners. The Nissan approach is to use electrical motors to power the wheels for all vehicles and use some variation of pure electric battery or small battery and ICE charger in hybrid to power that motor. Of course they are running down their inventories of , the older mechanical plus electric motor arrangement. The Toyota is slightly more old school .. their tried mechanical Prius hybrid and now hydrogen fuel cells and pure electric battery. Ultimately all cars will have electric motor power to the wheels.,but where that power comes from is the question.But those decisions were made in the light of an impending ban, they go early to get a head start on the competition. If the ban changes, is delayed, cancelled their goals may not change but how they get there could.
I think you, ll find current thinking is
A) To reword ban from banning ICE to saying compulsory zero emissions (or a %age there of,perhaps 90%)
B)The ban shouldn't stifle and decide the technology. (as it does at moment) but rather politicians should set the standards and let engineers decide how to get there. That could mean no change whatsoever (ie total electrification) or it could mean achieving those goals via some other method. (possibly even a as yet unseen solution)
This is much more along lines of Japan's approach.
I don't think anyone wants to either delay or change the end goals or time scales. But EU (or countries) should not be letting politicians decide the technology.
(eg, its entirely feasible to produce zero (net) emissions via drop in Fuels, but at moment they still produce other pollutants (Nox), if that could be stopped there is no reason for their banning, but under EU legislation as is they would be banned. (zero emissions at exhaust) Both Porsche and Ferrari see this as problematic, and hence lobbying for change). Porsche are already planning on offering 911 with ICE into indefinite future. They must be confident of some changes, either at Government or EU level.
Germany’s effort to save the combustion engine gains allies
Berlin is blocking the final approval of a measure ending the sale of polluting cars, and other countries may be getting on board.
It's more Toyota and Honda who are being cautious, being wary about the Chinese position with the essential minerals so not taking the full plunge into battery power. It's why Toyota are clinging onto their "self charging hybrid" concept for new models which Honda also have and which also works well with NiMh batteries. And of course Toyota have a very strong ICE market position in the third world where EV will be a very long way off yet.
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Doing an electric motor conversation is a hobbyist / enthusiast thing, and utterly non economic to do..Like making a hovercraft...i still think a conversion is the best way to go as then you can spec the size batt to the car you want have full control over it controller wise and be able to replace the batts in 5-10 years time.
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1250x4 motors.
1250bhp 2 of those on the rear wheels should be enough to pop down tesco or use them for a weapon motor on a battle bot
like the motor on my bike if it wont work with the new smart batts then it is a boat anchor and done on purpose as planned obsolescence and they will do the same to ev production cars and tracked and traced 247 and the subscription fees to go with it or no warm ass for you and 20mph speed limit everywhere
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