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[Ghost1951]

I also received this message from them:

TV Licensing
Darlington
DL98 1TL

Tel: 0300 790 6030

Email: customer-relations@tvlicensing.co.uk

Reference: COM1-*******************

Dear Mr *********

Thank you for your email received the **** September, which has been recorded under your complaint reference COM1-*************. Please use this number if you wish to contact us again.

This was sent as we can see this email address was used to watch programmes on BBC iPlayer recently. However, TV Licensing was advised via this email address that no licence was needed at the address given in the notification.

If you are using BBC iPlayer, you need to be covered by a valid licence.

If you are using BBC iPlayer at this address, you will need to buy a licence. You can do this at tvlicensing.co.uk/pay

If you are using BBC iPlayer at a different address, you need to be covered by the licence for that address. For more information please visit tvlicensing.co.uk/usingiplayer

As you have told us that you haven't watched iPlayer at your address, I have updated your declaration that no licence is needed. You will receive a confirmation letter about this shortly.

For more information please visit tvlicensing.co.uk/usingiplayer

Thank you for taking the time to contact us.

Yours sincerely,

Stacey G*********
TV Licensing

 

[nigelbb]

I'm afraid you are mistaken here.

You can not access iplayer without having a BBC account.

When you create an account you give them an email address.

Every time you use Iplayer or any BBC site, the data is logged which allows cross referencing of the date and time of use and your identity.

Since I cancelled my BBC license online, I gave them my email, in connection with my address, email and the BBC account reference used when accessing any BBC service. If you cancel online they ask for an email address and a telephone number. They clearly DO scan the Iplayer logs looking for people who have cancelled. There are protest websites online about their enforcement which have threads where lots of people have been contacted like I was. They DO CHECK.

I'm sure you can see how the enforcement arm of the BBC - CAPITA can make themselves aware of my use of iplayer when my home address has no license. This irrespective of the fact that I was using it at a licensed premises.

Here is an edited copy of the message they sent me:

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OK. Your mistake was obviously to be too honest.

Notwithstanding my other point still stands. If you create a BBC account & use iPlayer there is no way of the BBC or Capita knowing who you are. They cannot tie an email address to a TV licence so unless you incriminate yourself you can use iPlayer without fear of being contacted by the "heavy enforcers".

 

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[portals]

Neither the BBC nor Capita know whether you are using iPlayer at your partner's house or anywhere else.

Yes, they can't, how could they know, that was my point without getting logs from my ISP, even then just use a VPN company that don't store logs and use London as location with smurf email.

To access iPlayer you need to create & login to an account on the BBC website. The only information required to create an account is an email address a date of brith a gender & a valid UK post code. However none of this information is verified so there is no audit trail to connect an individual to a particular BBC login.

Yes, if you watch iplayer then use a smurf email address to register (used same yahoo one for over 25yrs), certainly never give them you regular email especially if it has PII in it like your name...

Any communications you have received regarding not owning a licence will just be a routine follow up to your cancellation trying to guilt trip you into buying a TV licence. It's nothing to do with what you get up to with your laptop.

Here's another treatment for the BBC to work up, 'The Great British TV License Scandal', they can interview the pensioners and infirm that they constantly hassled for years after they've declined to renew their TV license and attempted to lie and bully them in to buying a new one with 'scheduled visits' the the 'style' of letters Capita send out, scummy company, the worst at everything...

My dislike of the BBC has grown over the years, I worked for them for couple of years in Media Centre, White City and the money pissed away and wastage was outrageous, my wife also worked for them in program development and production, they treat the man on the ground as scum and the mostly useless 'execs' are all in top hotels absolute w@nkers almost every of them I came across, the good guys were all on the ground.

 

[portals]

Every time you use Iplayer or any BBC site, the data is logged which allows cross referencing of the date and time of use and your identity.

Well, they will associate you logon session to their application servers based on the email/pwd combination you registered with and this will be tied to the IP address that their web servers 'see' and send HTTP(S) Responses back to that IP for that particular session, however if this is a VPN service it's useless to them as they have zero idea what happened once their response hits the VPN internet gateway, you are 'hidden'.

Since I cancelled my BBC license online, I gave them my email, in connection with my address, email and the BBC account reference used when accessing any BBC service. If you cancel online they ask for an email address and a telephone number. They clearly DO scan the Iplayer logs looking for people who have cancelled. There are protest websites online about their enforcement which have threads where lots of people have been contacted like I was. They DO CHECK.

I'm sure you can see how the enforcement arm of the BBC - CAPITA can make themselves aware of my use of iplayer when my home address has no license. This irrespective of the fact that I was using it at a licensed premises.

Here is an edited copy of the message they sent me:

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You are under no legal obligation to give out an email address to any company unless that was part of the T&Cs you signed up to. I imagine when you did have a TV license that you never supplied an email address, it's common practice for companies to try and 'quiz' you for data when they get you on the phone, mortgage providers IMO are the worst, when I speak to someone I get a barrage of Qs not related to why I phone up and it never surprises me that when you cut them off dead and say just tell what I asked the get defensive even though they're reading a script for a bonus!

Always use a smurf email with no PII in it (like your name).

 

[portals]

I also received this message from them:

TV Licensing
Darlington
DL98 1TL

Tel: 0300 790 6030

Email: customer-relations@tvlicensing.co.uk

Reference: COM1-*******************

Dear Mr *********

Thank you for your email received the **** September, which has been recorded under your complaint reference COM1-*************. Please use this number if you wish to contact us again.

This was sent as we can see this email address was used to watch programmes on BBC iPlayer recently. However, TV Licensing was advised via this email address that no licence was needed at the address given in the notification.

If you are using BBC iPlayer, you need to be covered by a valid licence.

If you are using BBC iPlayer at this address, you will need to buy a licence. You can do this at tvlicensing.co.uk/pay

If you are using BBC iPlayer at a different address, you need to be covered by the licence for that address. For more information please visit tvlicensing.co.uk/usingiplayer

As you have told us that you haven't watched iPlayer at your address, I have updated your declaration that no licence is needed. You will receive a confirmation letter about this shortly.

For more information please visit tvlicensing.co.uk/usingiplayer

Thank you for taking the time to contact us.

Yours sincerely,

Stacey G*********
TV Licensing

Did the updated declaration stop the enforcement hate mail coming to the address?

 

[saneagle]

I don't give a toss about Hunter Biden or his laptop

Because it's too embarrassing for you after you got it so wrong!

 

[MikelBikel]

 

[saneagle]

OK. Your mistake was obviously to be too honest.

Notwithstanding my other point still stands. If you create a BBC account & use iPlayer there is no way of the BBC or Capita knowing who you are. They cannot tie an email address to a TV licence so unless you incriminate yourself you can use iPlayer without fear of being contacted by the "heavy enforcers".

Again you're wrong, though not 100% wrong this time. They bought some 3rd party data that somehow collected all email addresses used at house addresses, so they can link accounts to your house if that email was ever used when you ordered something from somewhere. When you use iplayer, they check the email for that account, then they use the database to check the addresses that have been used by that email anywhere, then they check those addresses for TV licenses and send a letter to any of them that don't have TV licenses telling them that they've been caught, so get a license immediately.

They probably send round their goons to those addresses too to tell people they've been caught using iPlayer, even though it's not hard evidence, to try to get them to admit it and buy a license.