Hi guerney thanks for info, but it don’t mention chain on page 22. I may not need to add more links to chain yet if these torque washers from eBay are ok as like I said to Nealh the ones from ERider are too long that’s why chain is taught as you can’t move wheel back in drop outs
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Sorry about that, it's on page 40 - I use the search function on Sumatra PDF on PC and search for words such as "Chain" etc. in manuals. The PDF viewer counts pages differently to those numbered.
Well Like I said earlier, it was 3 months being fixed, took it along a short stretch of road dam axle had twisted a bit so broke cable to motor, also fried 2 sensors on the motor pcb, I did buy 3 more new sensors, but messed up the pcb so had to buy another from china which took 5 weeks, which was a pack of 5 pcbs for just £13.87 but i saw same one on ebay for £22 that's just 1 what a rip off I thought.
I'm just sorting out the torque washers now as instructed by the brilliant Nealh, without his help I wont have had this electric moped working, also with Matthewslack help too.
Oh so you used Sumatra pdf viewer, its ok I will check again. I'm still waiting for these torque washers to arrive from eBay. But feel they wont fit a 14mm axle. I have asked the seller but he didn't seem to know, and the ones Erider provided, which I don't think they are for my model 15, as too long that's why I cant make chain looser as the torque washers are too long, But will see if these from eBay will fit, if not I will have to saw some off the ends of these from Erider.
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Please can we not confuse matters by describing torque arms as torque washers.
If the erider ones are too long grind a bit off the end so they fit, the generic curved bike ones aren't as good as they have a weak point which is the bolted join. A one piece TA is always stronger and better then a two piece item as there is no chance of the arm moving.
If the erider ones are too long grind a bit off the end so they fit, the generic curved bike ones aren't as good as they have a weak point which is the bolted join. A one piece TA is always stronger and better then a two piece item as there is no chance of the arm moving.
Ok I get confused, ok torque arms, But I have just now received the 1 from ebay, I thought it was a pair for each sides of axle but its just 1 side. but I have taken a image of how it fits. with the arm and jubilee clip. its much better plus chain is not now tight.
But I don't know what's best as if I turn this part on its own opp way round it nearly lines up with that hole marked in yellow, which are for the bike stand which I don't use anyway, but I could drill through that hole so it does line up. would that be much better or use the whole part with jubilee clip.
this is what Erider sent me, but the top torque arm is the original one, and Erider sent 2 of those bottom ones, which I could grind down. But I just thought to save all of doing that use the ones from ebay
this is the part marked in yellow where the other torque arms catch and make chain too tight
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The jubilee clip is useless as a restraint against torque force, it will at some stage fail.
100% reverse the main shaped axle fitting and use it by aligning the fixing hole and bolt it direct. You will still need to use the old original one on the other side.
Once fitted there is no need to use those anti rotation washers with tab on them.
The idea of torque arms is a belt and braces firm fixing that simply sit tight against the drop out, a one piece item is twice as good as a two piece item that could move. A direct bolt fixing is essential.
100% reverse the main shaped axle fitting and use it by aligning the fixing hole and bolt it direct. You will still need to use the old original one on the other side.
Once fitted there is no need to use those anti rotation washers with tab on them.
The idea of torque arms is a belt and braces firm fixing that simply sit tight against the drop out, a one piece item is twice as good as a two piece item that could move. A direct bolt fixing is essential.
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Nealh I really appreciate your advice on those jubilee clip torque arms, Glad you mentioned they will be useless, But I have now managed to cut a piece off of each torque arms which Erider sent and grinded them shorter so hopefully I can now fix bolts where they should go, and make sure chain is now as it should be.
so what about those big washers I have 1 on insides of drop outs , then on outside a torque arm which obviously I am placing a bolt through hole to secure them, then another big washer, then the nut then will also seal over threads with that Loctite 243 glue will that be ok now
The washers have tow uses if needed. On the inside as a spacer between the hub and inside face of the drop out, usually to prevent one causing friction/ rubbing against the other. Often the outer washer will have serrations on the face so the nut can't simply loosen via vibrations.
My pc seems to use auto correct and often what I type comes out very different.
Tow should read two.
Tow should read two.
Its ok makes sense now yeah I know what you mean. Well I have gone back to the original method I said about in #127 the 1st image showing yellow circles on image. I am just going to use the piece below I have drilled a hole so it lines up ok. I just couldn't get those by Erider to fit right, they wasn't for this model anyway. I've just ordered another 1 for opp side. as I thought they came in a pair but obviously what I ordered was just 1.
so then after I have secured those each side with bolts. its just a matter of fitting a few more parts back like seat etc dash. wing mirrors. then Im all good to go I think these torque arm parts will be much better just using the part above only
Well somehow I had lost the original black one, And Erider sent me this one, but again that must have been for a smaller axle width as it didn't fit my 14mm axle. I think they just had a few old torque arms but not for my model
This is what I have done to 1 side just got to fit a bolt in that hole marked with blue line then do same other side but got to wait now for other one to arrive as I thought it was a pair I ordered but it was just 1
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At last again moped is all done, Its been 4 months. well it was 3 months, really, but after a short ride cable snapped, that was because I didn't have correct washers and 2 torque arms. plus it had fried 2 hall sensors. plus the pcb was messed up too, so had to order more which took 5 weeks to arrive. but all I have to do now is fit back box, fit 2 handle bar grips. and will do a test on Sunday on a short road a few times back and forwards. then if all fine well back on long trips
Nealh just a quick ? whats a 48V battery on full charge now is it 53v or 54v
Nealh just a quick ? whats a 48V battery on full charge now is it 53v or 54v
WELL DONE THAT MAN!!At last again moped is all done, Its been 4 months. well it was 3 months, really, but after a short ride cable snapped, that was because I didn't have correct washers and 2 torque arms. plus it had fried 2 hall sensors. plus the pcb was messed up too, so had to order more which took 5 weeks to arrive. but all I have to do now is fit back box, fit 2 handle bar grips. and will do a test on Sunday on a short road a few times back and forwards. then if all fine well back on long trips
Nealh just a quick ? whats a 48V battery on full charge now is it 53v or 54v
13 x 4.2 = 54.6V.
Yes didn't think about that will do that another time, but thanks for advice. fingers crossed for Sunday testing day
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