Brexit, for once some facts.

guerney

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I can't see how. From North to South, people feel let down by his government, this one and very likely the next one. England may often vote conservatives but will punish any party that loses their money.
It's sickening but: Tory fortune happens when thickos meet charisma.
 
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truss is toast the lettuce won pmsl :p
The lettuce would have only cost 58p :mad:

Liz Truss can claim £115,000 every year from taxpayer despite serving for just six weeks

Truss survived just 45 days in No 10, consigning herself to the history books as the country’s shortest serving prime minister




Liz Truss in line for £18,000 ‘golden goodbye’ after resignation

Prime minister entitled to quarter of her salary as severance pay with no minimum time limit


 
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The lettuce would have only cost 58p :mad:

Liz Truss can claim £115,000 every year from taxpayer despite serving for just six weeks

Truss survived just 45 days in No 10, consigning herself to the history books as the country’s shortest serving prime minister




Liz Truss in line for £18,000 ‘golden goodbye’ after resignation

Prime minister entitled to quarter of her salary as severance pay with no minimum time limit



do these count as hand outs. I thought she was against them. one rule for one and .....................
 

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BJ and Sunak will almost certainly reach the minimum required 100 endorsements. Sunak is leading but will BJ show up on Monday to register his candidacy?
What do you think?

So far, 148 tory MPs have disclosed their support:

Sunak: 67
Johnson: 60
Mordaunt: 21
 
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BJ and Sunak will almost certainly reach the minimum required 100 endorsements. Sunak is leading but will BJ show up on Monday to register his candidacy?
What do you think?

So far, 148 tory MPs have disclosed their support:

Sunak: 67
Johnson: 60
Mordaunt: 21
Sure he will (and win too). Tories are evidently not ready to say goodbye to brexit. And have form when it comes to catastrophic bad judgement (look forward to truss' second coming in a month or so after boris get booted out - again).
 
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Woosh

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Sure he will (and win too).
I am not convinced he will run. Firstly, Sunak is more popular with the MPs than he is. If you compare the names of his backers against Sunak, Sunak has the cream of the party while he's got the dross. Also, the economy is such in a bad shape that he would have to tax more, spend less and still loses at the next GE whether in this year, next year or in 2024.
 

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I am not convinced he will run. Firstly, Sunak is more popular with the MPs than he is. If you compare the names of his backers against Sunak, Sunak has the cream of the party while he's got the dross. Also, the economy is such in a bad shape that he would have to tax more, spend less and still loses at the next GE whether in this year, next year or in 2024.
Or he could lie, compulsively, and bluster. And blame the pandemic, putin. Conservative voters like that kind of thing.
 

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Sunak is leading but will BJ show up on Monday to register his candidacy?
I hope he does, since otherwise I could see Mordaunt winning.

And that I absolutely do not want to happen, since she is a Brexiter who has previously backed Truss, two proofs of very poor judgement.

Added to which I am going to be blatantly sexist in saying I do not want a fourth Tory woman prime minister. Weren't the last three enough?
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jonathan.agnew

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I am not convinced he will run. Firstly, Sunak is more popular with the MPs than he is. If you compare the names of his backers against Sunak, Sunak has the cream of the party while he's got the dross. Also, the economy is such in a bad shape that he would have to tax more, spend less and still loses at the next GE whether in this year, next year or in 2024.
I agree, but worry that economic pain (and thetes serious dose coming) usually go with a lurch to the right. And that boris is just the kind of pied piper to offer to lead us out of our misery.
 

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BJ and Sunak will almost certainly reach the minimum required 100 endorsements. Sunak is leading but will BJ show up on Monday to register his candidacy?
What do you think?

So far, 148 tory MPs have disclosed their support:

Sunak: 67
Johnson: 60
Mordaunt: 21
Questions over the truth of those figures.
 

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Questions over the truth of those figures.
their names are listed, I have no reason to doubt the tally.
Currently, Sunak has 78 names + 3 verified MPs but their names are not made public, total 81. BJ has 45 names + 17 who did not want their names in print, total 62. Mordaunt has 18 names + 3 undisclosed names. That's nearly half of all tory MPs. I reckon Sunak will end up with about 140, BJ 100-110, Mordaunt 100-105.
 

oyster

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their names are listed, I have no reason to doubt the tally.
Currently, Sunak has 78 names + 3 verified MPs but their names are not made public, total 81. BJ has 45 names + 17 who did not want their names in print, total 62. Mordaunt has 18 names + 3 undisclosed names. That's nearly half of all tory MPs. I reckon Sunak will end up with about 140, BJ 100-110, Mordaunt 100-105.
Earlier today Craig Whittaker was on the Johnson list but denied he'd expressed his opinion to anyone.

Can't see him now so might have been removed.
 

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there may be some crank calls. The guy who compiles the list is supposed to check that the callers declare themselves.
 
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