Brexit, for once some facts.

[guerney]

Trade from UK to EU 16% lower than if Brexit had not happened, report finds
Economic and Social Research Institute analysis found ‘substantial reduction in number of products traded’

Trade from UK to EU 16% lower than if Brexit had not happened, report finds

Economic and Social Research Institute analysis found ‘substantial reduction in number of products traded’

www.theguardian.com

 

[guerney]

Frost (now there is bona fide tory PM material) thinks it's all a remainer plot, that nothing has gone wrong, evidently it's all putin and labour's fault

Liz Truss has to go if the Tory party is to have any chance of recovering

Suella Braverman’s exit shows why the PM’s position isn’t sustainable. She has to leave — and soon

www.telegraph.co.uk

Having failed to method act wartime Maggie, support will coalesce faster if she lauched a nuke.

 

[soundwave]

truss is toast the lettuce won pmsl

 

[flecc]

Yes, Truss has finally bowed to the inevitable.

But that solves nothing.

With the prospect now of three Prime Ministers in rapid succession from this party since the country voted Tory, we need a new General Election this time.
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[tillson]

Yes, Truss has finally bowed to the inevitable.

But that solves nothing.

After three Prime Ministers since the last national vote, we need a new General Election.
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I can’t see that happening. If the next deadbeat is selected during October, that will be 3 PMs since August!

in 10 years time, Liz Truss’s legacy will be a piece of trivia. She’ll be the one you miss when the pub quiz question asks how many PMs has the U.K. had since ….

The problem we face is that almost all of the candidates put self gratification, self importance and their own pomposity ahead of absolute everything else. That’s all they have entered politics to achieve. The country, the cost of living crisis and the energy misery faced by millions is of absolutely no concern.

Morally, there should be a GE.

 

[Woosh]

the real wrecker is BJ. He got us a hard brexit and put the extremists in charge.

 

[flecc]

The problem we face is that almost all of the candidates put self gratification, self importance and their own pomposity ahead of absolute everything else.

Makes one wonder why they dislike Vladimir Putin.

They seem to be largely kindred spirits.

The disease of politics that also produces Silvio Berlusconi, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Jair Bolsonaro.
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[soundwave]

just put him in charge whats the worst that can happen bar craping on the carpet

 

[wheeler]

The "fighter not a quitter" is in the sh1tter.

 

[guerney]

This would have been wonderful news to return to, after my two mile ver ver slow jog... but two years is ample time for this total Trusterfuck to be reframed and diminished/disappeared by the Tory media machine's reality-distortion field.

 

[tillson]

Rumours are circulating that Boris Johnson may be a possible successor to Truss.

Isn't he still under investigation for lying to Parliament on those occasions when he lied to Parliament? Having said that, it's now a relatively minor transgression of the gutter standards and morals this current crop of imbeciles has introduced.

 

[guerney]

Rumours are circulating that Boris Johnson may be a possible successor to Truss.

Isn't he still under investigation for lying to Parliament on those occasions when he lied to Parliament? Having said that, it's now a relatively minor transgression of the gutter standards and morals this current crop of imbeciles has introduced.

He's their best chance of winning the next GE

 

[tillson]

He's their best chance of winning the next GE

I think he is their best chance, but doesn't that illustrate just how far things have fallen and what the country has become.

 

[esuark]

I think he is their best chance, but doesn't that illustrate just how far things have fallen and what the country has become.

I cant write what I think of him but a channel four journalist has been suspended for a week for saying the same word off air but about a different politician........

 

[Woosh]

He's their best chance of winning the next GE

I can't see how. From North to South, people feel let down by his government, this one and very likely the next one. England may often vote conservatives but will punish any party that loses their money.

 

[flecc]

I can't see how. From North to South, people feel let down by his government, this one and very likely the next one. England may often vote conservatives but will punish any party that loses their money.

Simple solution to stop the Tories getting away with three Prime Ministers in one parliament.

When their choice presents themselves to the Palace for acceptance, King Charles refuses to accept them on constitutional grounds**, thus forcing a General Election as the only way out of the impasse.

For Charles, who has never been a popular figure, it would be a wise move, hugely boosting his subsequent popularity in the country at large through standing up for the common people.

** There is no precedent in our constitutional past for three Prime Ministers in a single elected parliament, two of them unelected as PM.
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[flecc]

Simple solution to stop the Tories getting away with three Prime Ministers in one parliament.

When their choice presents themselves to the Palace for acceptance, King Charles refuses to accept them on constitutional grounds**, thus forcing a General Election as the only way out of the impasse.

For Charles, who has never been a popular figure, it would be a wise move, hugely boosting his subsequent popularity in the country at large through standing up for the common people.

** There is no precedent in our constitutional past for three Prime Ministers in a single elected parliament, two of them unelected as PM.

Within a few minutes of my posting this the BBC were discussing the same on the News.

Shows once again what I've always maintained, that the authorities do closely follow the Brexit Thread.
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[daveboy]

I think he is their best chance, but doesn't that illustrate just how far things have fallen and what the country has become.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

I can't see how. From North to South, people feel let down by his government, this one and very likely the next one. England may often vote conservatives but will punish any party that loses their money.

I'm grateful to Truss for explicitly linking her economic policy to brexit in her resignation speech. Her policies were the ultimate expression of it ("taking g advantage of new freedoms" - sic). This mess doesn't have much to do with Truss or boris (in any population there's a normal distribution of twats, much more so in a conservative population). It's the logical conclusion of brexit and its lies.

 

[Danidl]

Simple solution to stop the Tories getting away with three Prime Ministers in one parliament.

When their choice presents themselves to the Palace for acceptance, King Charles refuses to accept them on constitutional grounds**, thus forcing a General Election as the only way out of the impasse.

For Charles, who has never been a popular figure, it would be a wise move, hugely boosting his subsequent popularity in the country at large through standing up for the common people.

** There is no precedent in our constitutional past for three Prime Ministers in a single elected parliament, two of them unelected as PM.
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I would see that as logical.. as would the obvious one of having a potential candidate being voted for by a majority in Parliament. So Charles could Very reasonably require that this candidate, the first of his reign DEMONSTRATEs that they have majority support. The mechanism by which Truss was elected, and indeed Johnson was exceedingly undemocratic. Even had the vote been restricted to Tory MPs it would have had a level of accountability , since each of them is the representative of choice by a voting constituency