Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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And here's aother example of an automatically added to inter-site link:


What words are quoted? What do you end up reading when you follow the link? Feel like apologising yet?
Of course not, no apology due.

Heres that link correctly used, leading to my unaltered post:


You should have used that unaltered and answered below.

You've used it to link to this answer from you in a different post which quotes yourself without any reference to my original post, click it to see:


It's you who doesn't know how the forum works or should be correctly used. I've been using it since the day it opened in October 2006.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, if you wish to reply to one of my posts, please just click the Reply button and add your answer BELOW the quote of my post that appears.

Altering or adding to the quote of what I posted is trolling and extremely bad online behaviour, as is redirecting what it's referring to.
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guerney

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Of course no apology due.

Heres that link correctly used, leading to my unaltered post:


You should have used that unaltered and answered below.

You've used it to link to this answer from you in a different post which quotes yourself without any reference to my original post:


It's you who doesn't know how the forum works or should be correctly used. I've been using it since the day it opened in October 2006.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, if you wish to reply to one of my posts, please just click the Reply button and add your answer BELOW the quote of my post that appears.

Altering or adding to the quote of what I posted is trolling and extremely bad online behaviour, as is redirecting what it's referring to.
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I've tried my best to explain it to you, the rest is up to you to learn about flecc - I can't do your thinking for you. Do your own homework!
 
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flecc

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I've tried my best to explain it to you, the rest is up to you to learn about flecc - I can't do your thinking for you. Do your own homework!
Not true, you are misusing the links. In the post above you answered, I showed you two identical links.

The first leads correctly to exactly what I posted, as it should in any forum.

The second that you used wrongly leads to something different, so not a correct link at all due to your alterations.

Since you are the only person in the whole forum doing that, you're clearly linking wrongly.

It's me showing you, as I said, if you wish to quote me, just click the Reply button and answer below the correct quote that appears.
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guerney

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Not true, you are misusing the links. In the post above you answered, I showed you two identical links.

The first leads correctly to exactly what I posted, as it should in any forum.

The second that you used wrongly leads to something different, so not a correct link at all.

Since you are the only person in the whole forum doing that, you're clearly linking wrongly.

It's me showing you, as I said, if you wish to quote me, just click the Reply button and answer below the correct quote that appears.
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guerney

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Not true, you are misusing the links. In the post above you answered, I showed you two identical links.

The first leads correctly to exactly what I posted, as it should in any forum.

The second that you used wrongly leads to something different, so not a correct link at all due to your alterations.

Since you are the only person in the whole forum doing that, you're clearly linking wrongly.

It's me showing you, as I said, if you wish to quote me, just click the Reply button and answer below the correct quote that appears.
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It's pointless arguing about something you clearly don't understand.
 

flecc

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It's pointless arguing about something you clearly don't understand.
I fully understand what you are deliberately doing to annoy.

Why not quote accurately using the Reply button provided for that purpose? It's what our circa 15,000 other members do.
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guerney

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I fully understand what you are deliberately doing to annoy.

Why not quote accurately using the Reply button provided for that purpose? It's what our circa 15,000 other members do.
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DUH! A N G R Y! You'll always be annoyed when you don't understand? Observe how this link to my post is represented:


Do you see what I mean? No? Never mind then. :D
 
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guerney

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I fully understand what you are deliberately doing to annoy.

Why not quote accurately using the Reply button provided for that purpose? It's what our circa 15,000 other members do.
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Here's a random link:


Why is this represented automatically like that? This forum treats inter-forum links the same as external website links. This forums sub-routine has scraped the headline and the content from the html tag:

"content="Covid rules" etc.

...but that doesn't work at all well when scraping from inter-forum links to posts, where it uses the same approach ie scrapes the title and content tags from a whole page of a thread, which might not have anything at all to do with what's actually what's been posted on that specific post. That's a flaw in this website's functioning, not my trying to mislead. Sorry if you don't understand what I've written.
 
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from the ons site total deaths are still in normal numbers but one thing is for sure the kill more every year when in power and the nhs is in the **** every winter nothing changes.


YearNumber
of deaths
Population
(Thousands)
Crude mortality
rate (per
100,000
population)
Age-standardised
mortality rate
(per 100,000
population)
2020608,00259,8291,016.201,043.50
2019530,84159,440893.1925
2018541,58959,116916.1965.4
2017533,25358,745907.7965.3
2016525,04858,381899.3966.9
2015529,65557,885915993.2
2014501,42457,409873.4953
2013506,79056,948889.9985.9
2012499,33156,568882.7987.4
2011484,36756,171862.3978.6
2010493,24255,692885.71,017.10
2009491,34855,235889.61,033.80
2008509,09054,842928.31,091.90
2007504,05254,387926.81,091.80
2006502,59953,951931.61,104.30
2005512,99353,575957.51,143.80
2004514,25053,152967.51,163.00
2003539,15152,8631,019.901,232.10
2002535,35652,6021,017.701,231.30
2001532,49852,3601,017.001,236.20
2000537,87752,1401,031.601,266.40
1999553,53251,9331,065.801,320.20
1998553,43551,7201,070.101,327.20
1997558,05251,5601,082.301,350.80
1996563,00751,4101,095.101,372.50
1995565,90251,2721,103.701,392.00
1994551,78051,1161,079.501,374.90
1993578,51250,9861,134.701,453.40
1992558,31350,8761,097.401,415.00
1991570,04450,7481,123.301,464.30
1990564,84650,5611,117.201,462.60

There were 451,770 deaths registered in England and 29,462 in Wales during the first ten months (January to October) of 2021.


given the population per 100.000 every year was higher from 1990 to 2002 which tells me this vaccine does not do anything to stop death from catching any virus esp if you are 80+

Crude death rate in the United Kingdom from 1953 to 2019


now i dont care what anyone wants to jab in there arms or smoke but corona viruses was first discovered in the 19020s with the first electron microscope so they have had 90 years to make a cure and best they could do was a flu jab which is a defence for older ppl as it should if they want it as it is not a cure!

mrna was first developed in 1992 and has been in development ever since and was developed to cure things like cancer and it did not work and was shelved in 2017 as ran out of money and shelved.

In order to protect mRNA molecules from the body’s natural defenses, drug developers must wrap them in a protective casing. For Moderna, that meant putting its Crigler-Najjar therapy in nanoparticles made of lipids. And for its chemists, those nanoparticles created a daunting challenge: Dose too little, and you don’t get enough enzyme to affect the disease; dose too much, and the drug is too toxic for patients.

Yet Moderna could not make its therapy work, former employees and collaborators said. The safe dose was too weak, and repeat injections of a dose strong enough to be effective had troubling effects on the liver in animal studies.


what do you want a jab every 3 months to boost that booster for every different strain they find it will never end if that's the case and good for profit margins so when the testing stations close that will be the end of it as we test more over here than the hole of the eu put together pmsl.


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DWP Response

The DWP has the information you have requested.

The Vaccine Damage Payments Scheme (VDPS) provides a one-off tax free payment,
currently £120,000, to those people who are severely disabled as a result of vaccination
against a specified disease, within the meaning of the Act.

It is not compensation.

1. establishing, on the balance of probabilities, that the disablement was caused by
vaccination covered by the Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme (VDPS);
1

2. the resulting disablement is severe disablement (60% or more)



all i can say if this does screw you up good luck getting that 120k from the dwp as this is funded buy the tax payer not these company's same as in the usa but every one over there pays 11cents in tax why they get pay outs for millions via the tax payer over there and in India they just set you on fire lol.


3.4 billion ill stick to weed and cider :p
 
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Zlatan

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Here's a random link:


Why is this represented automatically like that? This forum treats inter-forum links the same as external website links. This forums sub-routine has scraped the headline and the content from the html tag:

"content="Covid rules" etc.

...but that doesn't work at all well when scraping from inter-forum links to posts, where it uses the same approach ie scrapes the title and content tags from a whole page of a whole thread, which might not have anything at all to do with what's actually what's been posted on that specific post. That's a flaw in this website's functioning, not my trying to mislead. Sorry if you don't understand what I've written.
Over 5000 pages... No problem... Wonder who has arrived to demonstrate this issue??
 
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guerney

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Over 5000 pages... No problem... Wonder who has arrived to demonstrate this issue??
Ask flecc- I didn't start this. Some people simply seem to need a good flame war, every so often.
 

Zlatan

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from the ons site total deaths are still in normal numbers but one thing is for sure the kill more every year when in power and the nhs is in the **** every winter nothing changes.


YearNumber
of deaths
Population
(Thousands)
Crude mortality
rate (per
100,000
population)
Age-standardised
mortality rate
(per 100,000
population)
2020608,00259,8291,016.201,043.50
2019530,84159,440893.1925
2018541,58959,116916.1965.4
2017533,25358,745907.7965.3
2016525,04858,381899.3966.9
2015529,65557,885915993.2
2014501,42457,409873.4953
2013506,79056,948889.9985.9
2012499,33156,568882.7987.4
2011484,36756,171862.3978.6
2010493,24255,692885.71,017.10
2009491,34855,235889.61,033.80
2008509,09054,842928.31,091.90
2007504,05254,387926.81,091.80
2006502,59953,951931.61,104.30
2005512,99353,575957.51,143.80
2004514,25053,152967.51,163.00
2003539,15152,8631,019.901,232.10
2002535,35652,6021,017.701,231.30
2001532,49852,3601,017.001,236.20
2000537,87752,1401,031.601,266.40
1999553,53251,9331,065.801,320.20
1998553,43551,7201,070.101,327.20
1997558,05251,5601,082.301,350.80
1996563,00751,4101,095.101,372.50
1995565,90251,2721,103.701,392.00
1994551,78051,1161,079.501,374.90
1993578,51250,9861,134.701,453.40
1992558,31350,8761,097.401,415.00
1991570,04450,7481,123.301,464.30
1990564,84650,5611,117.201,462.60

There were 451,770 deaths registered in England and 29,462 in Wales during the first ten months (January to October) of 2021.


given the population per 100.000 every year was higher from 1990 to 2002 which tells me this vaccine does not do anything to stop death from catching any virus esp if you are 80+

Crude death rate in the United Kingdom from 1953 to 2019


now i dont care what anyone wants to jab in there arms or smoke but corona viruses was first discovered in the 19020s with the first electron microscope so they have had 90 years to make a cure and best they could do was a flu jab which is a defence for older ppl as it should if they want it as it is not a cure!

mrna was first developed in 1992 and has been in development ever since and was developed to cure things like cancer and it did not work and was shelved in 2017 as ran out of money and shelved.

In order to protect mRNA molecules from the body’s natural defenses, drug developers must wrap them in a protective casing. For Moderna, that meant putting its Crigler-Najjar therapy in nanoparticles made of lipids. And for its chemists, those nanoparticles created a daunting challenge: Dose too little, and you don’t get enough enzyme to affect the disease; dose too much, and the drug is too toxic for patients.

Yet Moderna could not make its therapy work, former employees and collaborators said. The safe dose was too weak, and repeat injections of a dose strong enough to be effective had troubling effects on the liver in animal studies.


what do you want a jab every 3 months to boost that booster for every different strain they find it will never end if that's the case and good for profit margins so when the testing stations close that will be the end of it as we test more over here than the hole of the eu put together pmsl.


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DWP Response

The DWP has the information you have requested.

The Vaccine Damage Payments Scheme (VDPS) provides a one-off tax free payment,
currently £120,000, to those people who are severely disabled as a result of vaccination
against a specified disease, within the meaning of the Act.

It is not compensation.

1. establishing, on the balance of probabilities, that the disablement was caused by
vaccination covered by the Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme (VDPS);
1

2. the resulting disablement is severe disablement (60% or more)



all i can say if this does screw you up good luck getting that 120k from the dwp as this is funded buy the tax payer not these company's same as in the usa but every one over there pays 11cents in tax why they get pay outs for millions via the tax payer over there and in India they just set you on fire lol.


3.4 billion ill stick to weed and cider :p
Brilliant. You, ve convinced us all Soundwave.
I, ll buy a bong and a few flagons of cider, grow weed, buy a samurai, stop using capital letters, switch off my spell check and talk bo11ox. Job done.
And, by the way, 2020 shows over a 7% increase over 2019 and largest increase in all your quoted figures.
And, what you are really telling us is that in your infinite wisdom and expert knowledge of both analytical statistics and microbiology you know more than combined knowledge of NHS, JCVI, Mhra, and every University in country. The simple fact is you have been hoodwinked and indoctrinated by a ridiculous mis information system. You have bought the BS hook line and sinker.
So far, fortunately for such as yourself enough of us poorly educated types, incapable of research have succumbed and had jab, worn masks, been careful etc etc and just managed to keep NHS operating. But give it time and probably a few more mutations and you might get lucky... And be proved you are talking utter BS by catching it.. Let's hope you cope and don't give it somebody who can't.
 
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guerney

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My 6 year old grandson says that... A lot.
Rather unfortunately for flecc, YES. But, disagreement is what makes life so interesting - adds to it's rich mosaic.
 

Zlatan

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Rather unfortunately for flecc, YES. But, disagreement is what life so interesting.
But you are doing it with me now.
It's you arguing and changing point.
You said "I didn't start this"
The question isn't whether you did or not, it's simply childish to claim
"I didn't start this"... Especially when you are continuing it... Hence my comment
"my grandson says that a lot".
Just leave it Guerney. It ain't worth arguing over. Whoever started it. (and I, d bet Flecc is right any way, he always is)
 

guerney

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I fully understand what you are deliberately doing to annoy.

Why not quote accurately using the Reply button provided for that purpose? It's what our circa 15,000 other members do.
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I used the "Share this post" function provided by this website. Observe how these two distinct posts of mine are represented:



...exactly the same, regardless of what's wriitten on the posts themselves - the automatically scraped content misleads, not I. Apology accepted.
 

guerney

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But you are doing it with me now.
It's you arguing and changing point.
You said "I didn't start this"
The question isn't whether you did or not, it's simply childish to claim
"I didn't start this"... Especially when you are continuing it... Hence my comment
"my grandson says that a lot".
Just leave it Guerney. It ain't worth arguing over. Whoever started it. (and I, d bet Flecc is right any way, he always is)

Oh no.
 

guerney

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But you are doing it with me now.
It's you arguing and changing point.
You said "I didn't start this"
The question isn't whether you did or not, it's simply childish to claim
"I didn't start this"... Especially when you are continuing it... Hence my comment
"my grandson says that a lot".
Just leave it Guerney. It ain't worth arguing over. Whoever started it. (and I, d bet Flecc is right any way, he always is)

I'm trying to explain something to flecc about how this website forum automatically represents links, which he clearly hasn't understood yet - I'm attempting to do this by showing examples, in the hope that he eventually does. I certainly don't blame you for not reading all of the previous posts, it'd be a gigantic waste of time to be utterly honest. Flecc simply misunderstood how this forum's link scraping functions, with regard to inter-forum links. He's used to hitting "Reply", but "Share this post" is also useful. It's certainly not my fault that it doesn't work properly when linking specific posts on this website - it quotes title and page "content" tags of the page that the post resides within, not the actual linked post.
 
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