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Pretty sure this video is gen, can't see why it would have been faked. I would be very surprised if as suggested in the report a cowl may have been left over an engine. I used to work in RAF valley in Anglesey back in the 1980s and at that time at least three different people would check something like that before the plane took off.

JHC if your reading this what are your thoughts?

Video appears to show UK F-35 fighter crash after take-off - BBC News
 
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Pretty sure this video is gen, can't see why it would have been faked. I would be very surprised if as suggested in the report a cowl may have been left over an engine. I used to work in RAF valley in Anglesey back in the 1980s and at that time at least three different people would check something like that before the plane took off.

JHC if your reading this what are your thoughts?

Video appears to show UK F-35 fighter crash after take-off - BBC News
It gives the impression that if the pilot had appreciated the issue seconds earlier, they might have been able to cut the engine and stomp on the brakes before reaching the top of the ramp.
 

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It's St Andrews Day and I'm Sure Nicola Sturgeon would approve of dedicating this to Boris Johnson as a token of mutual esteem

Air a chuir mar chomharradh air ar spèis dha chèile
 
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Not unhappy if our roads are quieter, but the impacts will be much more significant in years to come.

Goods shipped directly from Ireland to EU up by 50% in six months
Exporters move away from traditional Dublin to Britain routes to avoid Brexit red tape
 
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It's St Andrews Day and I'm Sure Nicola Sturgeon would approve of dedicating this to Boris Johnson as a token of mutual esteem

Air a chuir mar chomharradh air ar spèis dha chèile
Compared to the blonde bawbag these boys look really smart and we'll turned out.

FTFY and Nicola
Air a chuir mar shamhla air a ’ghràin a tha againn air a chèile
 
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Not unhappy if our roads are quieter, but the impacts will be much more significant in years to come.

Goods shipped directly from Ireland to EU up by 50% in six months
Exporters move away from traditional Dublin to Britain routes to avoid Brexit red tape
Yes there are now 44 direct Ireland EU routes as opposed to I think about 18 some 2 years ago. The time difference is not really significant, since UK roads are relatively poor , and the drivers get a 14 hour long kip on the way, so their tachometer gives them a longer reach into Europe. The key beneficiary has been the port of Rosslare, which has had its highest tonnage volume ever last October.
 

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At last, after nearly five weeks of struggling to get the booster, it's finally in my arm.

But what a bureacratic routine they had set up in the large central vaccination centre.

On arrival I showed my online booking form to the entry steward, who, armed with laptop asked my name, date of birth and first line of my address, all information they already had.

He ushered me to Steward 2 only a few yards ahead who asked exactly the same the questions to check on his laptop and asked me to read a notice listing things causing possible difficulties with receiving the vaccine.

After a glance and assuring him I was a speed reader, he directed me to a clinical check stage, where steward 3 asked the same three questions to check against their laptop, plus a clinical quizzing.

From there I was escorted by yet another steward to the vaccination area, where another laptop bearer asked the same three questions for the fourth time to check against their screen. Only then did I finally get the jab, but was then directed to a 15 minute waiting area. With the whole process taking almost an hour due to the mini queues at each stage, I'd had enough and walked straight out without waiting.

When I had the first and second jabs at the regional health center there was just one brief admin stage and then the jab, and no 15 minutes waiting to leave. In fact jab 2 was right next to the exit from the building with nowhere to wait even if I'd wanted to.

There seems to be a lot of confusion in the NHS about such things. Online it assures that one can have the booster and 'flu jab at the same time, yet some NHS staff including two today seemed to think there had to be at least seven days between. Rather than argue I lied that my 'flu jab was well over 7 days before.

Still, I did receive another sort of booster, one I get from time to time. When I gave my date of birth to one of the women, she leaned back in her chair wide eyed and said "Wow!" At all ages I've always looked far younger than my age and she was another thinking I was in my 60s, rather than being 85.
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At last, after nearly five weeks of struggling to get the booster, it's finally in my arm.

But what a bureacratic routine they had set up in the large central vaccination centre.

On arrival I showed my online booking form to the entry steward, who, armed with laptop asked my name, date of birth and first line of my address, all information they already had.

He ushered me to Steward 2 only a few yards ahead who asked exactly the same the questions to check on his laptop and asked me to read a notice listing things causing possible difficulties with receiving the vaccine.

After a glance and assuring him I was a speed reader, he directed me to a clinical check stage, where steward 3 asked the same three questions to check against their laptop, plus a clinical quizzing.

From there I was escorted by yet another steward to the vaccination area, where another laptop bearer asked the same three questions for the fourth time to check against their screen. Only then did I finally get the jab, but was then directed to a 15 minute waiting area. With the whole process taking almost an hour due to the mini queues at each stage, I'd had enough and walked straight out without waiting.

When I had the first and second jabs at the regional health center there was just one brief admin stage and then the jab, and no 15 minutes waiting to leave. In fact jab 2 was right next to the exit from the building with nowhere to wait even if I'd wanted to.

There seems to be a lot of confusion in the NHS about such things. Online it assures that one can have the booster and 'flu jab at the same time, yet some NHS staff including two today seemed to think there had to be at least seven days between. Rather than argue I lied that my 'flu jab was well over 7 days before.

Still, I did receive another sort of booster, one I get from time to time. When I gave my date of birth to one of the women, she leaned back in her chair wide eyed and said "Wow!" At all ages I've always looked far younger than my age and she was another thinking I was in my 60s, rather than being 85.
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Glad you eventually got it.

My booster was simpler - just one question point, and confirmation by nurse. But, yes, waiting area after vaccination.

For my first vaccinations, I was advised to go and sit in my car for fifteen minutes. Easy as it was located in the local rugby club and has its own car park.
 
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Glad you eventually got it.

My booster was simpler - just one question point, and confirmation by nurse. But, yes, waiting area after vaccination.

For my first vaccinations, I was advised to go and sit in my car for fifteen minutes. Easy as it was located in the local rugby club and has its own car park.
Wales, , Rugbi , yea figures. .. My wife got her 3 rd dose today, .. 15 minute walk up to the local hotel , 30 + minutes there and the 15 minute walk home. I reckon I got the Rolls Royce Treatment. Phoned from GP a week previous, 6 minute stroll, hanging out side in a courtyard for maybe 15 minutes, sitting in corridor shuffling along 10 minutes. Jab and sitting in waiting room looking out at sea 10 minutes 6 minutes home.
And Yes I am very glad you got it. What is interesting is that my vaccine card does not indicate that the third jab is a booster... They left another box open for that. Moreover our Leo, Tainste ,and qualified A&E doctor, refused to call the third shot a booster ...and he would be linked in with medical thinking.
 
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What is interesting is that my vaccine card does not indicate that the third jab is a booster... They left another box open for that. Moreover our Leo, Tainste ,and qualified A&E doctor, refused to call the third shot a booster ...and he would be linked in with medical thinking.
That is interesting, it makes more sense to me to call it simply a third shot.

I had a related thought today on the way we've done this in the UK. We had the first shot, then the delayed second shot at 12 weeks, which of course is three months. Now we have permission for the "booster" at three further months on.

So basically a shot every three months.

For ever??
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Compared to the blonde bawbag these boys look really smart and we'll turned out.

FTFY and Nicola
Air a chuir mar shamhla air a ’ghràin a tha againn air a chèile
Rather too strong if they manage to translate it, we got away with describing De Piffle as a liar today!
 

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That is interesting, it makes more sense to me to call it simply a third shot.

I had a related thought today on the way we've done this in the UK. We had the first shot, then the delayed second shot at 12 weeks, which of course is three months. Now we have permission for the "booster" at three further months on.

So basically a shot every three months.

For ever??
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None of the documentation for the vaccines that I have seen mentions use as a booster.

Indeed, I don't remember a single one mentioning a third injection of any sort.

On that basis, I do question the formal authorisation for these purposes.

Further, the initial insistence on six months delayed some third vaccinations. Would have made sense to slightly adjust the delay to optimise a nice, smooth delivery. Maybe five months - with variations depending on stocks, etc.

There are suggestions that some forever Covid vaccine might be possible. We can hope.
 
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Privatisation of water was such a good idea.

Ofwat concerned by financial health of three UK water firms
Alert over Southern, Yorkshire and SES Water amid concerns over pollution and flooding in sector

Does Ofwat have a scheme for customers to be taken over? Or to operate a water company in administration?
 
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In my mother's house, we hit that problem. She had a plumbing leak which meant that the carpet in her living room needed to be replaced. The insurance assessor insisted on testing the tiles - which confirmed they contained asbestos. Hence, all the tiles had to be removed, multiply bagged and taken somewhere. The problem was the time from leak to final relaid carpet seemed like forever. Months and months while people argued, specialist remover booked, etc.

Stupid thing was, five other rooms and the hallway were left with the same tiles.

Anyway, when we sold it off, the issue came up. Thankfully, the purchaser was going to strip it all out, so it ended up not being much of an issue.
All that sounds wildly irritating! Unless it's "Friable" ie disintegrating or broken, floor tiles containing asbestos, are safe if left alone (?) and the same goes for sealed away asbestos cavity wall insulation, intact roofing panels etc. I don't fancy the disruption of a whole removal crew ripping out the floor tiles for days on end... and I'd worry about stray strands left invisibly stuck to walls, behind radiators and other nooks and crannies. A zillion layers of polyurethane should keep it safely sealed away for many years, I hope.
 
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All that sounds wildly irritating! Unless it's "Friable" ie disintegrating or broken, floor tiles containing asbestos, are safe if left alone (?) and the same goes for sealed away asbestos cavity wall insulation, intact roofing panels etc. I don't fancy the disruption of a whole removal crew ripping out the floor tiles for days on end... and I'd worry about stray strands left invisibly stuck to walls, behind radiators and other nooks and crannies. A zillion layers of polyurethane should keep it safely sealed away for many years, I hope.
They were the original tiles fitted, as so often, as the default floor covering. Since when fitted carpet had been in place, with gripper rods, nailed into/through them. Therefore, all round the edge they were damaged and quite a few had cracked and had some loose shards. Many years previously, broken ones had been replaced by a slap of self-levelling mortar.

One chap did the room on his own.
 
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We made the industrial boilers that are installed in schools, and of course smaller domestic boilers too.
Types of Asbestos? not a clue. it always arrived either in boxes as a powder, tiles or tins as a paste , as a woven cloth or rope in coils.
We cut it so shape of pasted it on to boiler platework with a special adhesive. and sat on piles of Asbestos cloth to have our lunch.
Treatments?
One X ray about five years ago, antibiotics, inhalers a sort of cough medicine and advice not to slouch, but sit back straight and upright, and sleep propped up, which I found works best sat in a chair.
The other symptoms are acute tiredness, and obviously breathless.
I went into the local Aldi with a mask on left quickly to clear a coughing spasm, before continuing with my shopping, but I must say the mask doesn't usually bother me much, but after the coughing I found I had to move slowly and pretend to show interest in various items to get my breath back.
Which proved to me I definitely need the protection the mask gives from Covid!
The Doctor said at this stage take life easy and don't be in a hurry to ask for Oxygen till you can't avoid doing so
Holy hell! Sounds like you were exposed to many distinct types? It's astonishing that in this day and age, there don't seem to be any treatment options for Asbestosis. All treatments for Mesothelioma look pretty alarming:

 
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They were the original tiles fitted, as so often, as the default floor covering. Since when fitted carpet had been in place, with gripper rods, nailed into/through them. Therefore, all round the edge they were damaged and quite a few had cracked and had some loose shards. Many years previously, broken ones had been replaced by a slap of self-levelling mortar.

One chap did the room on his own.
Whoever nailed the gripper rods through (breaking tiles), might have inhaled some asbestos. Did your Mum have to move out, while the room was being cleared?
 
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Difficult to achieve accurate, reliable statistics for consequences like these:

COVID-19 Post-acute Sequelae Among Adults: 12 Month Mortality Risk
Discussion: Patients with a COVID-19 hospitalization were at significantly increased risk for future mortality. In a time when nearly all COVID-19 hospitalizations are preventable this study points to an important and under-investigated sequela of COVID-19 and the corresponding need for prevention.
 
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Whoever nailed the gripper rods through (breaking tiles), might have inhaled some asbestos. Did your Mum have to move out, while the room was being cleared?
No - they used close vacuuming and many plastics bags. She was so old, and frail, I wasn't really worried for her.
 
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