Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

I'm afraid that's your over simplification. I've never had any unionised employment, certainly not during my largest rises in salaries.

And lunatic though Thatcher was, her policies of wider home ownership and shareholdings were more instrumental in spreading affluence more widely than anything a labour government ever did. They all made us poorer, albeit sometimes in a good cause.
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Oh really? Thatcher made home ownership wider did she? so that is why we had to demolish 10,000 council houses that no one wanted and apart from a few the rest were passed to so called "housing associations" because the city council were not allowed to use the money from the sales to build new social housing but to plug the gaps due to cuts in government funding.
And the result ? the housing associations are currently turning what were quite attractive housing into Soviet style grey rows of still rented properties and putting up the rents.
What made the city so Leave orientated is that where the 10,000 houses were demolished they were redeveloped into housing too expensive for locals to buy and foreigners (often from the York Commuter belt which shows how little it takes to be regarded as a foreigner!) and a large number of very nice and productive Poles and people of African origin came in and bought them up.
So the end result is we have large numbers of folk often elderly who couldn't afford to buy their council houses seeing an influx of outsiders in desirable new properties that they own.

Imagine how they are feeling now having voted for Brexit and expecting no more better off outsiders coming in and getting new and desirable houses when they are now in rented houses uglier than they started with.

And the government isn't doing itself any favours with an immigration policy that not only doesn't halt immigration but from their point of view encourages more of the people who are going to get new houses coming in?

 

[flecc]

Having money should not decide who lives through purchase of medical help or dies through being unable to afford to get it

The world is full of shoulds and shouldn'ts, that's because we are still all animals and animals stay alive through selfishness, they don't naturally share.

Thats why all our attempts at a sharing, caring society fail and are doomed to fail, the animal instinct will always out, especially with any shortage. You call that Tory, I know it's just human.

We only care and share when there's spare.
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[Jesus H Christ]

Well I'm not flecc's fluffer, and I didn't vote for brexit or boris. Need I say more?

Love it, flecc’s fluffer

flecc is ace. We go back a long way. Annoyingly, he’s always right with his take on things.

 

[flecc]

Oh really? Thatcher made home ownership wider did she? so that is why we had to demolish 10,000 council houses that no one wanted and apart from a few the rest were passed to so called "housing associations" because the city council were not allowed to use the money from the sales to build new social housing but to plug the gaps due to cuts in government funding.
And the result ? the housing associations are currently turning what were quite attractive housing into Soviet style grey rows of still rented properties and putting up the rents

Hull is not the only place in the country, I've seen very different elsewhere with what you quote being a minority situation.
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[oldgroaner]

Love it, flecc’s fluffer

flecc is ace. We go back a long way. Annoyingly, he’s always right with his take on things.

I'll agree with that conditionally if you use the word "usually" not "always"

 

[oldgroaner]

Hull is not the only place in the country, I've seen very different elsewhere with what you quote being a minority situation.
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No doubt, I was simply pointing out the local logic that powered the Brexit vote in Hull

 

[oldgroaner]

We only care and share when there's spare.
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Oh dear

 

[flecc]

Oh dear

Why Oh dear? "We only care and share when there's spare" is true, as much as you dislike it.

For example, having run out of spare, we've cut the foreign aid budget and are cutting out the Covid financial support measures. Hang around a bit longer and you'll see lots more cuts to get used to.
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[flecc]

I'll agree with that conditionally if you use the word "usually" not "always"

Tut, tut !
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[oyster]

That App should be shelved up Dido Harding’s chuff. Third rack on the left, just past the entrance.

I’ve tried to do the right thing, but now I’ve taken it off my phone. It’s a complete waste of time, effort and money.

I too have removed it.

Yet, when it was first released, I had been among the first to install it.

 

[Jesus H Christ]

I too have removed it.

Yet, when it was first released, I had been among the first to install it.

Wanting to engage with the battle against Covid, I installed the App early on. I should have known it would turn out to be a sack of ****. I’m disappointed with myself for believing that they’d make a good job of test & trace.

Can you remember Matt Handcock saying the App would be the cherry on Dido’s cake? What a pair of *****.

 

[soundwave]

Status of COVID-19
As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK. There are many diseases which can cause serious illness which are not classified as HCIDs.

information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall),

High consequence infectious diseases (HCID)

Guidance and information about high consequence infectious diseases and their management in England.

www.gov.uk

https://flic.kr/p/2k5CNuc
https://flic.kr/p/2k5CNtL
https://flic.kr/p/2k5z2Vf
i got sent loads more but put them in the bin as fkn ******* and propaganda same **** the dwp do to control ppl.

 

[oldgroaner]

Status of COVID-19
As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK. There are many diseases which can cause serious illness which are not classified as HCIDs.

information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall),

High consequence infectious diseases (HCID)

Guidance and information about high consequence infectious diseases and their management in England.

www.gov.uk

https://flic.kr/p/2k5CNuc
https://flic.kr/p/2k5CNtL
https://flic.kr/p/2k5z2Vf
i got sent loads more but put them in the bin as fkn ******* and propaganda same **** the dwp do to control ppl.

So Covid f 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.
It only kills the most people after Dementia, which no one wants to talk about anyway..

Truly we are in the hands of a group of idiots who no doubt with a little more experience could create a situation that triggers an extinction event or damn near one.

England's answers are the same for major dangers to the public

Radiation and contamination leak
Deadly pandemic
Floods
Global Warming
Poverty

Don't do anything

Don't report it
Don't let it cost money
Let the bodies pile high, after all they're only plebs
But protect the rich.

 

[oyster]

So Covid f 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.
It only kills the most people after Dementia, which no one wants to talk about anyway..

Truly we are in the hands of a group of idiots who no doubt with a little more experience could create a situation that triggers an extinction event or damn near one.

England's answers are the same for major dangers to the public

Radiation and contamination leak
Deadly pandemic
Floods
Global Warming
Poverty

Don't do anything

Don't report it
Don't let it cost money
Let the bodies pile high, after all they're only plebs
But protect the rich.

Makes you wonder what impact a high consequence disease would have...

 

[oldgroaner]

Wanting to engage with the battle against Covid, I installed the App early on. I should have known it would turn out to be a sack of ****. I’m disappointed with myself for believing that they’d make a good job of test & trace.

Can you remember Matt Handcock saying the App would be the cherry on Dido’s cake? What a pair of *****.

I think that is a great idea!
Must go upstairs to turn off the fire alarm as the Fire Brigade is really really busy

 

[oldgroaner]

Makes you wonder what imact a high consequence disease would have...

It would kill off staff in the offshore banking sector

 

[Jesus H Christ]

So Covid f 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.
It only kills the most people after Dementia, which no one wants to talk about anyway..

Truly we are in the hands of a group of idiots who no doubt with a little more experience could create a situation that triggers an extinction event or damn near one.

England's answers are the same for major dangers to the public

Radiation and contamination leak
Deadly pandemic
Floods
Global Warming
Poverty

Don't do anything

Don't report it
Don't let it cost money
Let the bodies pile high, after all they're only plebs
But protect the rich.

I don’t think you can say that the response has been “Don’t do anything” This government has done a lot. Everything they have done has been poorly thought out, ineffective, unnecessarily expensive, badly managed, riddled with incompetence and fallen on deaf ears. So they have been busy.

From Monday onwards, the government is moving to a new phase loosely based around the principal of, “If a job is worth doing, then give up if it gets too difficult” They will be cutting us adrift in the stormy sea of Covid. It looks to be going down well with Fireworks up the Arse Hole man too. He seems to make up the majority of the wonderful British Public.

I don’t know how long the euphoria of freedom day will last, but I suspect it will be short lived.

 

[oyster]

I don’t think you can say that the response has been “Don’t do anything” This government has done a lot. Everything they have done has been poorly thought out, ineffective, unnecessarily expensive, badly managed, riddled with incompetence and fallen on deaf ears. So they have been busy.

From Monday onwards, the government is moving to a new phase loosely based around the principal of, “If a job is worth doing, then give up if it gets too difficult” They will be cutting us adrift in the stormy sea of Covid. It seams to be going down well with Fireworks up the Arse Hole man too. He seems to make up the majority of the wonderful British Public.

I don’t know how long the euphoria of freedom day will last, but I suspect it will be short lived.

I wonder if things might have been different if PM and her, and others, hadn't already had Covid - and vaccinations?

They very likely feel invulnerable. Unlike all too many of the population.

The bit you missed was that you must isolate if told to, but not if your job is actually worth doing.

 

[Jesus H Christ]

I think that is a great idea!
Must go upstairs to turn off the fire alarm as the Fire Brigade is really really busy

I wouldn’t turn off your fire alarm, it tells you if there is a fire in your house. That’s useful. The Covid App on the other hand tells you to self isolate if a Covid positive person enters an establishment that you vacated up to 23 hours earlier. The Covid App is so utterly useless it will tell you to self isolate because of a perceived contact with a person you have never been within a thousand miles of. It’s a complete sack of wankjuice.

 

[oyster]

I wouldn’t turn off your fire alarm, it tells you if there is a fire in your house. That’s useful. The Covid App on the other hand tells you to self isolate if a Covid positive person enters an establishment that you vacated up to 23 hours earlier. The Covid App is so utterly useless it will tell you to self isolate because of a perceived contact with a person you have never been within a thousand miles of. It’s a complete sack of wankjuice.

I am far more likely to be in contact with someone in a supermarket than anywhere else. But the fifteen minute rule implies that is impossible. And, despite changes to the transmissibility (e.g. with delta), the parameters have not changed.